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WBC only council in the south to lose money on parking, BBC South Today report |
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Jan 28 2010, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE (hamster @ Jan 28 2010, 06:46 AM) Just saw a brief news report on BBC South Today Brighton & Hove Council make the equivalent of £25.00 profit per year for each adult living in the city from their fines and £60 per year per adult from Permit schemes and meters.
Meanwhile Paul Clifton reports from outside West Berks Council in Newbury, I quote "they take a very different approach, it’s the only Council in Southern England to lose money on its car parking. Tax payers subsidise it."
Was making a loss planned then? I didn't see a mention of using my money to subsidise parking in the Council Tax leaflet last year did you? Is this council spin to justify the rubbish management of our parking or just a case of padding out the day’s news? You can only fit so may Civil Environment Officers in one road.......
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Jan 28 2010, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jan 28 2010, 09:02 AM) You can only fit so may Civil Environment Officers in one road....... CEO = Civil Enforcement Officer
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Jan 28 2010, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Jan 28 2010, 11:54 AM) CEO = Civil Enforcement Officer Makes them sound like Terminators Oh hang on a minute. They think they are... Hasta La Vista Fiesta.
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Jan 28 2010, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 28 2010, 09:36 AM) I'd be interested to know how much it costs to maintain a car park. Perhaps we'd all save money if they abolished parking charges and the enforcement officers altogether. The shops would benefit too.
Seems like win-win to me. How does that work. They still need to maintain the car parks and pay many of the enforcement officers but they get no revenue from parking to do it. Sounds like we're getting the best deal on parking in the South to me.
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Jan 28 2010, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 28 2010, 09:36 AM) I'd be interested to know how much it costs to maintain a car park. Perhaps we'd all save money if they abolished parking charges and the enforcement officers altogether. The shops would benefit too.
Seems like win-win to me. QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 28 2010, 07:29 PM) How does that work. They still need to maintain the car parks and pay many of the enforcement officers but they get no revenue from parking to do it.
Sounds like we're getting the best deal on parking in the South to me. If you read my post again: if we don't have any enforcement officers, we don't have to pay them. Yes, car parks need maintenance, but if charges were abolished (no barriers, no machines) the only maintenance cost would be for the upkeep of the surface and painting some white lines. More people would visit the town centre, shop revenues would increase, and as far as I can see everybody benefits. I'm expecting someone to find a flaw in my argument, though
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Jan 28 2010, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 28 2010, 08:17 PM) I'm expecting someone to find a flaw in my argument, though Ohh, ohh. Me please. How would you enforce disabled bays? Deal with people parking in 4 spaces so they don't have anyone too close? Drivers abandoning their car where ever they felt like? Assuming they would be locked at night, who would check they were empty and lock up? Enough flaws?
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Jan 28 2010, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 28 2010, 08:23 PM) Ohh, ohh. Me please. How would you enforce disabled bays? Deal with people parking in 4 spaces so they don't have anyone too close? Drivers abandoning their car where ever they felt like? Assuming they would be locked at night, who would check they were empty and lock up? Enough flaws? Disabled bays could be left to a trust basis, it's pretty taboo to use them if you are not entitled to, I don't think it would be a big problem, you can abuse them now for short periods of time if you so wish. You can't park across 4 spaces unless you're in a limo, but I know what you mean, however you can still do that now, you might get fined but it still goes on. Drivers causing an obstruction could be dealt with by the police, if they're not obstruting then there's no problem. Why lock them up? They could still be monitored though, no reason why someone can't be on hand to keep an eye on things. I think if we put our heads together we could do away with WBC altogether!
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Jan 28 2010, 09:23 PM
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Sorry. yes, I was forgetting. Fresh box of Trust in Human Nature opened and all is well again. Problem with council car parks is that they are not classed as public highways and therefore the police cannot deal with obsructions. I'm going to do my part. Tomorrow I'll go and do a collection at the old peoples home. Last year I nearly managed a football team before they made me put them back. Off now to walk around Tesco in my PJ's and slippers.
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Jan 28 2010, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 28 2010, 08:17 PM) If you read my post again: if we don't have any enforcement officers, we don't have to pay them. Yes, car parks need maintenance, but if charges were abolished (no barriers, no machines) the only maintenance cost would be for the upkeep of the surface and painting some white lines. More people would visit the town centre, shop revenues would increase, and as far as I can see everybody benefits. I'm expecting someone to find a flaw in my argument, though I read it. If we don't have any enforcement officers who's going to enforce the law? When I decide to park my car, two wheels up on the pavement stopping everyone getting past because I want to save a few minutes shopping who's going to stop me? What about sideways across a disabled bay? In fact right in front of your car so you can't move it all day? Who's going to come to your aid? No one. At least you have a few extra pennies in your pocket though.
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