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> Special treatment for Parkway has gone too far., They have a special reduction in their BID payment.
Grumpy
post Apr 30 2012, 08:55 AM
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Voting for the BID (Business Improvement District) ends today. I am disgusted to discover that the Parkway shops have a special concession and will have to pay only 50% of what the other shops in Newbury are expected to pay.

Why should they have a special concession?
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Andy Capp
post Apr 30 2012, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 30 2012, 09:55 AM) *
Voting for the BID (Business Improvement District) ends today. I am disgusted to discover that the Parkway shops have a special concession and will have to pay only 50% of what the other shops in Newbury are expected to pay. Why should they have a special concession?

Possibly because it is the council's pet.
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post Apr 30 2012, 10:38 AM
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Because, unfortunately, the rental price for those vacant units against the potential revenue from a limited local customer base is seemingly making Parkway an unattractive proposition for retailers.
If you then told propspective retailers that they had to pay more money towards the BID, it would only serve to discourage them further. There's also a disincentive for those stores currently occupying Park Way to contribute to the BID, since they're already in the nice new bit of town (and paying a premium for it no doubt).
That's my speculation anyway.
I just wonder how much the activities of the BID will actually contribute towards creating a vibrant town centre. While it's nice to have a good-looking highstreet with "activities" etc going on, I think most people are attracted to town centres for the retail offer. If the shops people want to shop in aren't there, they'll go elsewhere, regardless of how many hanging baskets line the streets.
On that note, I was under the impression that NTC currently picks up the bill for things like hanging baskets in the town centre. If the BID reduced the tax-payer's liability for making the town centre look nice, I'm all for it, but I suspect that it wont.
All I see the BID as is another QUANGO devised and implemented by the same old "Newbury Mafia". I don't doubt that it's all well-meaning, but I think incentivising potential independent retailers to take the risk of opening on Newbury high street is better than imposing more charges on them.

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post Apr 30 2012, 10:59 AM
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I was under the impression that PW was outside the BID zone, so no payments will be required.
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post Apr 30 2012, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 30 2012, 08:55 AM) *
Voting for the BID (Business Improvement District) ends today. I am disgusted to discover that the Parkway shops have a special concession and will have to pay only 50% of what the other shops in Newbury are expected to pay.

Why should they have a special concession?

As I understand it there is a discount applied to the Kennet Centre as well; this is a standard discount in all BIDs for properties that fall within a managed development. These occupiers already pay a service charge towards marketing, security, cleaning etc and therefore are entitled to a BID levy discount.
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post Apr 30 2012, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (NewburyP @ Apr 30 2012, 12:03 PM) *
These occupiers already pay a service charge towards marketing, security, cleaning etc and therefore are entitled to a BID levy discount.

Ah-ha! Good point.
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post Apr 30 2012, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (NewburyP @ Apr 30 2012, 12:03 PM) *
These occupiers already pay a service charge towards marketing, security, cleaning etc and therefore are entitled to a BID levy discount.

Well for my business in the BID area, I have to pay for marketing via my website and direct mail, plus advertisements in local newspapers (including this one). I have to pay a substantial fee to my alarm company for security and I also have to pay a cleaner. I have voted NO and I hope the BID fails.
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post Apr 30 2012, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 30 2012, 01:16 PM) *
Well for my business in the BID area, I have to pay for marketing via my website and direct mail, plus advertisements in local newspapers (including this one). I have to pay a substantial fee to my alarm company for security and I also have to pay a cleaner.

Good point returned!

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I have voted NO and I hope the BID fails.

What is it you are against?
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post Apr 30 2012, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 30 2012, 02:08 PM) *
Good point returned!


What is it you are against?


I can understand that Grumpy feels that the BID will not benefit his/her business as it is not located in the centre of the BID area. The BID, however, will generate circa £250k a year to be spent in Newbury and promoting Newbury; it is then upto each business to find ways to capitalise on the increased footfall.

Better to put energy into attracting more customers than campaigning against the BID - what is the alternative plan?
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post Apr 30 2012, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 30 2012, 01:16 PM) *
Well for my business in the BID area, I have to pay for marketing via my website and direct mail, plus advertisements in local newspapers (including this one). I have to pay a substantial fee to my alarm company for security and I also have to pay a cleaner. I have voted NO and I hope the BID fails.


As the great Dave insists "we are all in this together" it just seems that it will cost some more than others then? rolleyes.gif


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post May 1 2012, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 30 2012, 02:08 PM) *
What is it you are against?

I am unable to opt out of the payment. If the BID is accepted, I have to pay it whether I like it or not.

They are supposedly raising 200K per annum. £1 Million pounds over 5 years.

70K is going on wages and administration. 30K is going to Newbury Town Council for the Christmas Lights. That has taken 50% of monies already.
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post May 1 2012, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ May 1 2012, 09:19 AM) *
I am unable to opt out of the payment. If the BID is accepted, I have to pay it whether I like it or not.

They are supposedly raising 200K per annum. £1 Million pounds over 5 years.

70K is going on wages and administration. 30K is going to Newbury Town Council for the Christmas Lights. That has taken 50% of monies already.



The retailers should be paying for the Xmas lights.
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post May 1 2012, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 1 2012, 10:40 AM) *
The retailers should be paying for the Xmas lights.

PLEASE buy some new ones.
The ones we have are an awful, insipid something of nothing.
(Sorry to be talking about this in May!)
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post May 1 2012, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 1 2012, 03:14 PM) *
PLEASE buy some new ones.
The ones we have are an awful, insipid something of nothing.
(Sorry to be talking about this in May!)

There won't be that much cash.....
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post May 2 2012, 07:33 AM
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Of those eligible to vote, only 31% voted in favour of the BID.

354 couldn't be bothered and in consequence we are blighted for the next five years.

I still can't understand why places like Speenhamland School were asked to vote. They are not a business.
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post May 2 2012, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ May 2 2012, 08:33 AM) *
Of those eligible to vote, only 31% voted in favour of the BID.

354 couldn't be bothered and in consequence we are blighted for the next five years.

I still can't understand why places like Speenhamland School were asked to vote. They are not a business.

Or you could say 354 were happy for it to go ahead so didn't vote NO.
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post May 2 2012, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 1 2012, 03:14 PM) *
PLEASE buy some new ones.
The ones we have are an awful, insipid something of nothing.
(Sorry to be talking about this in May!)


Would you rather there be no jovial illuminations, or some old ones? In my 40 years I've never seen someone complain of "stale" lights. When I was a lad we had the same Christmas Tree and decorations for 8 years. We made the magic with the family spirit.

It was only when my Auntie broke a bauball in a skiing accident that we replaced the decorations.
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post May 2 2012, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE (Roger T @ May 2 2012, 09:45 AM) *
Would you rather there be no jovial illuminations, or some old ones? In my 40 years I've never seen someone complain of "stale" lights. When I was a lad we had the same Christmas Tree and decorations for 8 years. We made the magic with the family spirit.

It was only when my Auntie broke a bauball in a skiing accident that we replaced the decorations.

I am assuming that your Christmas tree was not in your living room at the time? Or was she off piste? wink.gif


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post May 2 2012, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE (Roger T @ May 2 2012, 09:45 AM) *
Would you rather there be no jovial illuminations, or some old ones? In my 40 years I've never seen someone complain of "stale" lights. When I was a lad we had the same Christmas Tree and decorations for 8 years. We made the magic with the family spirit.

It was only when my Auntie broke a bauball in a skiing accident that we replaced the decorations.

It should be the people who are going to financially benefit from the lights who should pay for them. Not the local taxpayers.

There would be uproar if Tesco at Pinnchinton Lane had their Xmas lights paid for by the local council.

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post May 2 2012, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE (Roger T @ May 2 2012, 09:45 AM) *
Would you rather there be no jovial illuminations, or some old ones?

The feeble one's used for the last few years are far from jovial - the old energy guzzling one's were far brighter and more jovial.
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