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Richard Garvie
post Mar 26 2011, 09:18 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12846318

The yearly tax-free payment to help people pay for their heating in the winter was worth £250 for the over 60s last week, and £400 for the over 80s.

But the payment will revert to £200 and £300 for the two age groups in the winter of 2011-12.
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post Mar 26 2011, 09:43 AM
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This is Newbury News?
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Richard Garvie
post Mar 26 2011, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 26 2011, 09:43 AM) *
This is Newbury News?


Are there pensioners in Newbury? I guess I could have posted it in the other one, can the admin move it over?
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Andy Capp
post Mar 26 2011, 09:47 AM
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Does it really matter where it is? We don't have to wade through tons of off topic threads.
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post Mar 26 2011, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 26 2011, 09:18 AM) *
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12846318

The yearly tax-free payment to help people pay for their heating in the winter was worth £250 for the over 60s last week, and £400 for the over 80s.

But the payment will revert to £200 and £300 for the two age groups in the winter of 2011-12.



Yes, and we know who is to blame for that; the labour party.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 26 2011, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Mar 26 2011, 10:35 AM) *
Yes, and we know who is to blame for that;
the people that voted for
QUOTE (GMR @ Mar 26 2011, 10:35 AM) *
the labour party.

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post Mar 26 2011, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 26 2011, 10:37 AM) *
the people that voted for

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I can't argue with that one.
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post Mar 26 2011, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 26 2011, 09:43 AM) *
This is Newbury News?
No, it's not news specifically about Newbury.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 26 2011, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 26 2011, 10:49 AM) *
No, it's not news specifically about Newbury.

I suspect it was a rhetorical question (and already addressed), but I find it disappointing that you and others see forum protocol as more worthy of comment than the the thread's theme.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 26 2011, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Mar 26 2011, 10:46 AM) *
I can't argue with that one.

I also suspect that there was a lot of people who didn't vote for the party have 'blood on their hands' as well.
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post Mar 26 2011, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 26 2011, 10:55 AM) *
I also suspect that there was a lot of people who didn't vote for the party have 'blood on their hands' as well.



You mean who supported them anyway?
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Richard Garvie
post Mar 26 2011, 11:36 AM
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We can argue about the reason behind the deficit all we like, the fact is the Conservative Party and the Lib Dems promised not to cut the fuel allowance, even saying tha Gordon Brown and Labour were lying. Turns out it was just another promise to be broken.

The real story here is that it is the vulnerable who are getting hit hardest again, yet there was no mention of this cut in the budget statement. How many other gems are hidden away?
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Simon Kirby
post Mar 26 2011, 11:40 AM
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Richard, I really don't agree with winter fuel payment. Just pay an adequate state pension.

The state administration is so complex and involved with payments for this, and exceptions for that, the only winner is the Big Fat State. How much money does it take to administer the winter fuel payments? And that's just one of myriad rules and regulations that sustain the behemoth state apparatus. Even the Big Society turns out to be nothing but a money spinner for the Big Fat State and it's familiars.


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Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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post Mar 26 2011, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 26 2011, 10:53 AM) *
I suspect it was a rhetorical question (and already addressed), but I find it disappointing that you and others see forum protocol as more worthy of comment than the the thread's theme.
The threads theme is not directly related to Newbury and therefore I (and it seems others too) have no interest in reading it on here.

I see we're now into general politicking about the national parties too.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 26 2011, 11:43 AM
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I think there is a moral to all this. Don't make promises that you are not utterly convinced you can keep. And even then, I'd seek a second opinion.
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post Mar 26 2011, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 26 2011, 11:40 AM) *
The threads theme is not directly related to Newbury and therefore I (and it seems others too) have no interest in reading it on here.

Well what are you doing here then? rolleyes.gif

Like I said: I find it disappointing that you and others see forum protocol as more worthy of comment than the the thread's theme. That on its own suggests an alternative (perhaps political) motivation, to that which is apparent.
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post Mar 26 2011, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 26 2011, 11:44 AM) *
Well what are you doing here then? rolleyes.gif

Like I said: I find it disappointing that you and others see forum protocol as more worthy of comment than the the thread's theme. That on its own suggests an alternative motivation to that which is apparent.
The motivation is the forum not becoming a general talking shop but keeping it as a good resource for discussion of local issues.

It it becomes the former it looses much of it's value, this should be apparent to you. If it's not, ask yourself why.
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QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 26 2011, 11:49 AM) *
The motivation is the forum not becoming a general talking shop but keeping it as a good resource for discussion of local issues.

It it becomes the former it looses much of it's value, this should be apparent to you. If it's not, ask yourself why.

Perhaps you should question you own honesty?

If people post topics that are not popular, they fade on their own merits, it is not for you to decide what is appropriate.
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post Mar 26 2011, 12:00 PM
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It is in the wrong place, not the end of the world but the categories are there for a reason. As someone already pointed out this has gone way off thread already, owing mainly to the fact that it is in this section.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 26 2011, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 26 2011, 12:00 PM) *
It is in the wrong place, not the end of the world but the categories are there for a reason. As someone already pointed out this has gone way off thread already, owing mainly to the fact that it is in this section.

And if this forum allowed one to either delete their post or repost it in the right one, don't you lot think RG wouldn't have done it buy now?

There are some weird people who post here. Pensioners are having their heating allowance slashed and all some are concerned about it whether it was posted in the right section. It's no-wonder this country has some of the problems it has. rolleyes.gif
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