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Richard Garvie
post Mar 22 2011, 03:50 PM
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On the allotment thread, party politics within town and p[arish councils was raised. It got me thinking, what benefit (if any) does party politics bring to the table at parish level?
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 22 2011, 03:50 PM) *
On the allotment thread, party politics within town and p[arish councils was raised. It got me thinking, what benefit (if any) does party politics bring to the table at parish level?

Everyone sings from the same hymn sheet.
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post Mar 22 2011, 07:08 PM
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anyway, what is 'Dogma Attitude' & what is meant by 'No Vested Interests'?
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Andy Capp
post Mar 22 2011, 07:56 PM
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In loose terms, with party politics one should be able to understand what a candidate stands for, and what their political philosophy is. Obviously, there is no absolutes and there is a certain amount of over-lap; especially these days.

A party can 'tame' a candidate, but whether that is a good idea all the time is another matter.
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post Mar 22 2011, 08:55 PM
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Party should give you an idea of whether the candidate is reactionary or radical, bourgeois or socialist, but it doesn't tell you if they're decent, devisive, or mad as a box of frogs. It also gives them something petty to squabble over.


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Richard Garvie
post Mar 22 2011, 09:47 PM
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Do you think Hungerford Town Council is better for being apolitical?
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post Mar 22 2011, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 22 2011, 09:47 PM) *
Do you think Hungerford Town Council is better for being apolitical?

It certainly makes the allotments expensive.
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM
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What benefits are there to party politics at district level?
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM) *
What benefits are there to party politics at district level?

Party support for things like canvassing and other labour intensive chores.
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM) *
What benefits are there to party politics at district level?

What benefits are there at national level?
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM) *
Labour, intensive chores.

surely.....
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post Mar 23 2011, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM) *
What benefits are there at national level?

Any level!!!!
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post Mar 23 2011, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 08:16 PM) *
Any level!!!!

The ultimate conclusion if we keep going at this rate is what is the benefit of any western democracy.
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post Mar 23 2011, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 08:21 PM) *
The ultimate conclusion if we keep going at this rate is what is the benefit of any western democracy.


I don't agree with that. Sadly, the evolution of party politics has been a corrupting process where 'the party' takes precedence. Membership of parties is so low they have virtually no mandate, IMHO.
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post Mar 23 2011, 08:28 PM
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You don't need as membership to support a party. Memberships are low because the parties are so closely aligned, and the majority of the country I suspect - despite what is reported - are content with their lot. Or at least are not too bothered who of the big three get in.

Maybe a little flippant, but this is what I mean by what is the point of a western democracy.
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post Mar 23 2011, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 08:28 PM) *
You don't need as membership to support a party. Memberships are low because the parties are so closely aligned, and the majority of the country I suspect - despite what is reported - are content with their lot. Or at least are not too bothered who of the big three get in.

Maybe a little flippant, but this is what I mean by what is the point of a western democracy.


Membership of the parties has always been barely above minimal, statistically.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 23 2011, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 09:50 PM) *
Membership of the parties has always been barely above minimal, statistically.

And therefore irrelevant as a measure of a mandate (which was your original point)?
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post Mar 23 2011, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 09:55 PM) *
And therefore irrelevant as a measure of a mandate (which was your original point)?


I think we agree....... Do we?
Should we? Could we?

memories.......
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Andy Capp
post Mar 23 2011, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 09:58 PM) *
I think we agree....... Do we?
Should we? Could we?

memories.......

Dunno, what was the question? unsure.gif
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post Mar 31 2011, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 08:26 PM) *
I don't agree with that. Sadly, the evolution of party politics has been a corrupting process where 'the party' takes precedence. Membership of parties is so low they have virtually no mandate, IMHO.

True. Have a look at Dave's Apolitical letter.
http://apoliticalparty.blogspot.com/2011/0...eekly-news.html
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