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Monster Rabid Tories pledge to give MPs free vote on fox hunting |
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May 10 2017, 01:34 PM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/09...ge-conservative"As it happens personally I have always been in favour of fox hunting and we maintain our commitment. We have had a commitment previously as a Conservative Party to allow a free vote and that’s what it will allow, would allow, Parliament the opportunity to take a decision on this.” - Theresa May PM, 2017. Another reason not to vote for them.
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May 12 2017, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 12 2017, 09:27 AM) My view is I remember public ownership and union militancy. Yes, potent issues. Personally, I think Labour's trouble with public ownership was to equate it with centralisation and deliver it through a traditional civil service model. I worked for a few. However, we can all now see that certain things, particularly common services, are in effect de facto monopolies. Electricity distribution, railways, telecom networks etc. In constrained free market competition, even with sophisticated rules to create pseudo markets doesn't work. So, let's take them into public control, perhaps franchised by region to aid performance measurement, but modelled on a cooperative (John Lewis) or non profit basis (BBC). Trades Unions are likely to be a harder nut to crack. However, most business schools now accept that the bad behaviours which came out of the UK Trades Union model in the 1970s hid an even worse and far more damaging phenomena. Poor British management coupled with under or misplaced investment in British industry. Hindsight is always 20/20, but the collapse of British Leyland, BSA motorcycles, etc,etc,etc wasn't just down to labour disputes however ugly they were. Ironically, with us coming out of Europe, the German Union model is far far better, as employees become properly involved in the management and direction of the business. They also treat management and management training very seriously as well as having properly constructed financial backing. Probably the reason they still have two mass market car producers. So, I think Labour is on the right track BUT and its a very big but, there will need to be some paradigm change in concepts. Hence nationally we do need many more political thinkers who are willing to input propositions .
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