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post Jun 15 2013, 12:07 PM
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Far from a rant, but a straight question.....

If Charles does not outlive HM, who succeeds The Queen?
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post Jun 15 2013, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Jun 15 2013, 01:07 PM) *
Far from a rant, but a straight question.....

If Charles does not outlive HM, who succeeds The Queen?

Second in succession is William, Charles's son. If William has gone then it'll be William and Kate's first born, whether male or female - it used to go to sons before daughters, but not any more, though the existing succession doesn't change, so the Princes Royal is still behind Andrew and Edward and all of their line.


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post Jun 15 2013, 12:25 PM
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So if Charles dies before the Queen does or relinquishes, Wills still succeeds?

It used to be the line went to the oldest surviving male descendant........
I know the gender has been changed. To my mind that means the next Monarch, if Charles does not make it, would be Andrew or Anne.....
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post Jun 15 2013, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Jun 15 2013, 01:25 PM) *
So if Charles dies before the Queen does or relinquishes, Wills still succeeds?

It used to be the line went to the oldest surviving male descendant........
I know the gender has been changed. To my mind that means the next Monarch, if Charles does not make it, would be Andrew or Anne.....

It goes descendants first, then siblings - so it goes to Charles and his line, and only when the whole of Charles' line have been exhausted does it go to Charles' siblings. Just because Charles didn't make it, or even if he declined it or became a Catholic so he couldn't succeed, that doesn't affect William's position in the line of succession, for that to happen Charles would need to be removed from the succession altogether by for example (and forgive the impertinence, but just to illustrate the point) discovering that he wasn't a legitimate child of the Queen and Duke of Ed.

Take George III for example who succeeded under the current rules of the Succession to the Crown Act 1707. He succeeded his Grandfather George II in 1760 because his father Frederick, Prince of Wales had died in 1751, even though Frederick's brother William, Duke of Cumberland was alive and well.

Incidentally, I think it's technically treason to disagree with me on this, which is kind of cool.


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post Jun 15 2013, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 15 2013, 01:53 PM) *
Incidentally, I think it's technically treason to disagree with me on this, which is kind of cool.


Shame a fairly recent Act removed the ultimate penalty; I wonder if they would have permitted TV into the Tower to film the firing squad?


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post Jun 15 2013, 01:48 PM
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There's a pretty straightforward answer to your question here

I'll bet you didn't know that Zenouska Mowatt is currently 48th in line. Of course that will drop to 49th once William and Kate's first born pops in at number 3, between the Duke of Cambridge and Prince Henry of Wales.
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post Jun 15 2013, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jun 15 2013, 02:48 PM) *
There's a pretty straightforward answer to your question here

I'll bet you didn't know that Zenouska Mowatt is currently 48th in line. Of course that will drop to 49th once William and Kate's first born pops in at number 3, between the Duke of Cambridge and Prince Henry of Wales.


Thanks for the clarification. Just proves the danger of being 'sure'!

I am distinctly unhappy that I do not appear anywhere in the complete list.....
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post Jun 15 2013, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Jun 15 2013, 03:59 PM) *
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I am distinctly unhappy that I do not appear anywhere in the complete list.....



We aren't wink.gif laugh.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (MontyPython @ Jun 15 2013, 05:16 PM) *
We aren't wink.gif laugh.gif


But if I did, you might too....... Although if you were ahead of me then your demise would be imminent as I planned my Accession.........

Would be very difficult, being responsible for the demise of Monty Python, but one of my first instructions to the PM would be to open a Ministry of Sill Walks.....
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