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post Jun 2 2019, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 2 2019, 02:23 PM) *
Labour government have always left the Country bankrupt. And I'm not including Blair / Brown as they were not really "Labour". I honestly believe that as at least 40% of the Country are now so entrenched in A Brexit position this Country could go "5 star".. and the remoaners will be at fault by failing to compromise on an exit.

The ERG blocked Brexit.
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post Jun 2 2019, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 2 2019, 03:20 PM) *
The ERG blocked Brexit.

In your world.
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post Jun 2 2019, 03:14 PM
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I'll just leave this here,

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/commen...r-tories-brexit
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post Jun 2 2019, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 2 2019, 04:14 PM) *


Its what I've been saying fella... If the Tories go ****EU and get Farage on the team the opposition are toast. 40% is a massive win. We wiĺl be swimming in salty remoaner tears.😂😂😂
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post Jun 2 2019, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 2 2019, 04:14 PM) *

Good to see they are taking it well...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48488732

Revolution comrades. Death to anyone wearing any hue of blue!
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post Jun 2 2019, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 2 2019, 03:33 PM) *
In your world.

If all the Tories and DUP had voted for the WA we’d be out. I know facts don’t rate highly in your world. The backstop is the UK’s idea. It wasn’t forced on us.
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post Jun 2 2019, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 2 2019, 04:14 PM) *

Interesting article. Thank you. I’m of the opinion that this will be the same sort of opinion that Corbyn is getting and he’ll buckle. I actually don’t know the rules of challenging Corbyn’s position but I wish someone would. There are so many people that would never vote for him. He’s as divisive as Farage.
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post Jun 2 2019, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 2 2019, 05:55 PM) *
If all the Tories and DUP had voted for the WA we’d be out. I know facts don’t rate highly in your world. The backstop is the UK’s idea. It wasn’t forced on us.

What's fact and what's fiction? Who decides? Is it you? We are like the USA in 2016. It's just a binary choice now. Blame it all on the ERG if you like. No one cares. You still don't get it. People are so entrenched now you can't win any argument. It's pointless.
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post Jun 3 2019, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 31 2019, 04:19 PM) *
Really? Kudos for assault on a head of state, how peculiar.

I know you don't mix outside of your bubble much, but even you must have noticed that Trump has a lot of enemies?
There is a massive movement of people who are against him being in office who would rejoice if he was "removed".
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post Jun 3 2019, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 2 2019, 06:23 PM) *
What's fact and what's fiction? Who decides? Is it you? We are like the USA in 2016. It's just a binary choice now. Blame it all on the ERG if you like. No one cares. You still don't get it. People are so entrenched now you can't win any argument. It's pointless.


Facts are real things
Fiction is made up stuff
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post Jun 3 2019, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 3 2019, 09:17 AM) *
I know you don't mix outside of your bubble much, but even you must have noticed that Trump has a lot of enemies?
There is a massive movement of people who are against him being in office who would rejoice if he was "removed".

There are always malcontents who don't like a democratically elected head of state. And it's usually lefties who think it's ok to use violence rather than the ballot. Sad but it's what I've come to expect from 'these' people. Milkshake for brains.
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post Jun 3 2019, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 3 2019, 09:21 AM) *
There are always malcontents who don't like a democratically elected head of state. And it's usually lefties who think it's ok to use violence rather than the ballot. Sad but it's what I've come to expect from 'these' people. Milkshake for brains.

In general violence is associated with the right. Compare remain and leave events and criminality.
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post Jun 3 2019, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2019, 10:04 AM) *
In general violence is associated with the right. Compare remain and leave events and criminality.

And the people throwing milkshakes and hoping the President is 'removed' [sic] are on the right are they?
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post Jun 3 2019, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 3 2019, 10:34 AM) *
And the people throwing milkshakes and hoping the President is 'removed' [sic] are on the right are they?

I would agree they are more often than not left leaning. In our country now we are in a position where lots of ordinarily normal and sensible people are saying and doing things that they probably never thought they would themselves. Moderate politics are being eaten up by extremists. It's what happens when people don't feel they are being represented or having their voices heard.

In my experience there is a longer history of violence and hatred from the right though.
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post Jun 3 2019, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 3 2019, 11:20 AM) *
I would agree they are more often than not left leaning. In our country now we are in a position where lots of ordinarily normal and sensible people are saying and doing things that they probably never thought they would themselves. Moderate politics are being eaten up by extremists. It's what happens when people don't feel they are being represented or having their voices heard.

In my experience there is a longer history of violence and hatred from the right though.

People have been throwing non lethal objects at politicians since I can remember. Unfortunately the snowflakes of the right are exploiting it. Remember it’s right wing extremists that murdered an MP.
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post Jun 3 2019, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2019, 07:08 PM) *
People have been throwing non lethal objects at politicians since I can remember. Unfortunately the snowflakes of the right are exploiting it. Remember it’s right wing extremists that murdered an MP.

Actually, no it wasn't, it was one man with a long history of mental problems. He even tried to get help the day before the killing. He had been obsessed with right wing groups to the point of paranoia. To simply parrot " it was right wing extremists" shows little understanding of the case and lowers the whole argument.

Why is it that throwing stuff at right wingers is an act of political expression while throwing something at a lefty qualifies as an act of violence by the hard right Nazi's?

Again, please feel free to get an adult to check your reply.
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post Jun 3 2019, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 3 2019, 08:16 PM) *
Actually, no it wasn't, it was one man with a long history of mental problems. He even tried to get help the day before the killing. He had been obsessed with right wing groups to the point of paranoia. To simply parrot " it was right wing extremists" shows little understanding of the case and lowers the whole argument.

Why is it that throwing stuff at right wingers is an act of political expression while throwing something at a lefty qualifies as an act of violence by the hard right Nazi's?

Again, please feel free to get an adult to check your reply.

One man who was radicalised and yelled “Britain First”.




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post Jun 4 2019, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2019, 09:23 PM) *
One man who was radicalised and yelled “Britain First”.

According to one witness. He was never a member of that particular 'group' and in fact they totally repudiated him, when asked for his name at his trial he declared "My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain". The man had never held down a full time job and was well known as a schizophrenic loner. Madder than a cut snake.
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post Jun 4 2019, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 4 2019, 09:17 AM) *
According to one witness. He was never a member of that particular 'group' and in fact they totally repudiated him, when asked for his name at his trial he declared "My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain". The man had never held down a full time job and was well known as a schizophrenic loner. Madder than a cut snake.

Was he ever a member on here?
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post Jun 4 2019, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 4 2019, 02:52 PM) *
Was he ever a member on here?

I expect so. Cos the Newbury Today forum is a hotbed of extremists... seems to be full of right minded people and one lefttly loon to me..
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