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> Thatcham BMM Owner catches "Garage" speeding on M4 @ 92mph, But he had secret GPS tracker fitted
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:00 PM
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Speeding along the M4!



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25...lty-brakes.html
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post Nov 20 2013, 05:01 PM
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Poor effort.
I got 150 out of my diesel golf laugh.gif


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post Nov 20 2013, 05:05 PM
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Having read the article on the DeadlyMail, 33 in a 30 wouldn't set off a speed camera for a start. There is questions to the accuracy of the GPS device.

I wonder if the owner is on the forum. It must be so interesting explaining to your wife what the box does. Wonder if that device also sends a reminder every time the owner doesn't indicate.


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post Nov 20 2013, 05:12 PM
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Oversize bill as well, presumably to also cover the collection and delivery time to and from Reading.

Interesting that the owner has the fob for the tracker in his hand and is wearing a tee shirt advertising the device. Have we missed something?

Something not quite right with the times as well if it was picked up just after 9:00.
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post Nov 20 2013, 05:30 PM
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It must be so interesting explaining to your wife what the box does

It vibrates darling especially when you speed up! ohmy.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:10 PM
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And so one of the perks of being a grease monkey disappears in a puff of smoke and a 'beep' of the GPS signal....

My brother-in-law has worked for various garages over many years.. Whenever a shiny luxury car or powerful sports car was dropped off for service there would be an instant squabble as soon as the owner was out of earshot over who would get to 'test drive' after the service.

A quick blast up and down the A4 or onto the M4 if he could manage it to warm the tyres up....."Just checking on a barely noticeable squeak we picked up on the service guv..."
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:44 PM
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Some people would be surprised to find that cars actually benefit from a regular "italian" tune. Allowing components to become slightly hotter than normal (eg turbochargers for example) and having your injectors, fuel pumps etc, pump larger quantities of fuel, helps to prevent deposits, everywhere from your EGR valve (on your intake) to the intake and exhaust valves on your engine.

As some of you may know I tuned my old Golf TDI to quite an extent. I drove it hard but it was treated well with correct warming up and cooling down, and regular oil changes. I bought it stock at 99k miles.

At 103k it was remapped from 105bhp to 149.
At 138k it was fitted with larger injectors taking it up to 171bhp ,running more than the maximum "safe" boost for the standard turbo.
At 143k the turbo was replaced with a brand new 3rd gen VNT unit from a 2.7v6 TDI. My original turbo when removed was in such good condition I was able to resell it. The car was then running 221bhp and I sold the car at 150k. It idled more quietly than my friends TDI which had done half of the miles and had no knocks, noises, rattles, it used zero water and lost no oil inbetween services. It never failed to start first time

During that time I had zero mechanical problems caused as a direct result of the extra power or the exuberant manner in which it was driven (aside from blowing the gearbox up at Santa Pod, but it had been slowly failing for a long time. That's my fault really not the cars)

My Mum's car however, which has done 40k, gets driven pretty gently 2 or 3 miles a day around town, and unfortunately has a coked up turbo which suffers from overboost conditions due to siezed VNT mechanism.

Besides, going fast is fun.

So occasionally do have a blast up to 90 on the motorway, in the long run your engine will be thankful for it smile.gif

You can trust me as I did some work experience at The Car Clinic. ??


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post Nov 20 2013, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Nov 20 2013, 07:44 PM) *
So occasionally do have a blast up to 90 on the motorway, in the long run your engine will be thankful for it smile.gif

You can trust me as I did some work experience at The Car Clinic. ??


Yes, but not in somebody elses car that is in your care I would suggest and not if I'm in the middle lane.
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post Nov 20 2013, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Nov 20 2013, 07:44 PM) *
Allowing components to become slightly hotter than normal (eg turbochargers for example) and having your injectors, fuel pumps etc, pump larger quantities of fuel, helps to prevent deposits, everywhere from your EGR valve (on your intake) to the intake and exhaust valves on your engine....


Driving fast is fun provided the conditions are reasonably safe and the road's fairly empty. I lived in Germany for many years when I was much younger, within sniffing distance of a fine long stretch of autobahn in the days when there were no speed limits on autobahns.... and fuel was very cheap.... Nothing like hiring a sports cars for the weekend and giving it some welly. The fastest car in the world is a hire car, but a hired SPORTS car is even faster!! laugh.gif

However if my car was to have 'large quantities of fuel' pumped into the mechanicals in some lubrication exercise I'd rather it was ME doing the driving rather than some spotty faced grease monkey with a stoopid grin on his face and wind in his hair gobbling up MY petrol........


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post Nov 21 2013, 01:35 AM
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Oh I agree. If someone jumped in my car and was doing 90 down the motorway I wouldn't be best pleased.
However driving faster than necessary in a customers car is never really ideal. I'm not saying it's right. But it does happen quite often within the garage industry at many smaller independant/less professional garages.

That's why I did my own servicing where possible or enlisted the help of close mates who did it while I was there helping.

That being said no harm was done (this time) and if it wasn't for the owner snooping on his own car (indicating a lack of trust) he wouldn't have found out. Yet he paid £400 to have some brake pads changed IN READING when there are hardly a shortage of decent garages around Thatcham&Newbury.. In Newbury I count 6 within a mile radius of each other near Hambridge Road..

This whole story smells of B.S to me.


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post Nov 21 2013, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Nov 21 2013, 01:35 AM) *
That being said no harm was done (this time) and if it wasn't for the owner snooping on his own car (indicating a lack of trust) he wouldn't have found out.


Rightly so too!
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post Nov 21 2013, 10:01 AM
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£450 for new brake pads!!!! ohmy.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Nov 21 2013, 08:59 AM) *
Rightly so too!


Rightly so he was snooping on his own car?

Screams of insecurity if he feels the need to monitor his car for anything other than theft recovery purposes.


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post Nov 21 2013, 10:45 AM
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So were the brakes safe or unsafe?
In the article the owner seems to contradict himself.
If they were unsafe then the car should not have been driven at all.
If they were safe then 90mph in that car is not really a problem.
If caught speeding then the driver would have been given the points and fine.
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post Nov 21 2013, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Nov 20 2013, 05:12 PM) *
Something not quite right with the times as well if it was picked up just after 9:00.

Judging by the SMS, daylight saving hasn't been adjusted on the app.
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post Nov 21 2013, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 21 2013, 10:45 AM) *
So were the brakes safe or unsafe?
In the article the owner seems to contradict himself.
If they were unsafe then the car should not have been driven at all.
If they were safe then 90mph in that car is not really a problem.
If caught speeding then the driver would have been given the points and fine.

The driver drives a car at his own risk, so I see no contradiction, but no matter how you look at this, the driver was driving the car in a discourteous and therefore inappropriate manner.

Having said all that, it come from the Daily Myth so should be treated with the utmost suspicion.
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post Nov 21 2013, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2013, 11:14 AM) *
Judging by the SMS, daylight saving hasn't been adjusted on the app.


If it's a true GPS time it should have satellite time.
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post Nov 21 2013, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Nov 21 2013, 12:10 PM) *
If it's a true GPS time it should have satellite time.
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I suspect the GPS signal will be a constant and the app off-set.
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post Nov 21 2013, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2013, 01:30 PM) *
The driver drives a car at his own risk, so I see no contradiction,


Gary, from Thatcham, Berkshire, said: 'I can’t believe how irresponsibly someone was driving my car - especially because they knew it needed new brakes.' 'It was so dangerous'

Gary said: 'My car said the pads needed servicing. I knew it would be safe to go a few more miles,'

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2013, 01:30 PM) *
but no matter how you look at this, the driver was driving the car in a discourteous and therefore inappropriate manner.

Agreed. But, as you say, reported by the Daily Mail so blown out of proportion.
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post Nov 21 2013, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 21 2013, 12:29 PM) *
Gary, from Thatcham, Berkshire, said: 'I can’t believe how irresponsibly someone was driving my car - especially because they knew it needed new brakes.' 'It was so dangerous'

The bit you missed out: "...the car might not have been able to stop quickly at such high speeds."

He effectively was saying the car was potentially unsafe to drive at speed because a brake light indicator had come on. I doubt it was dangerous to drive at any speed, but he still hasn't contradicted himself. Had he drove the car himself at speed then that might be a different matter.
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