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lordtup
Posted on: Feb 8 2013, 09:30 AM


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It is with regret that I shall not be contributing to this forum in future .
I can no longer tolerate the acrimonious comments posted by certain individuals in direct contradiction to paragraph 5a in the rules and regulations .
I appreciate some may not take it seriously but I do and there are plenty of other forums that hopefully have a clientele that know how to conduct themselves.
Goodbye.
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It is with regret that I shall not be contributing to this forum in future .
I can no longer tolerate the acrimonious comments posted by certain individuals in direct contradiction to paragraph 5a in the rules and regulations .
I appreciate some may not take it seriously but I do and there are plenty of other forums that hopefully have a clientele that know how to conduct themselves.
Goodbye.
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Posted on: Feb 8 2013, 09:29 AM


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It is with regret that I shall not be contributing to this forum in future .
I can no longer tolerate the acrimonious comments posted by certain individuals in direct contradiction to paragraph 5a in the rules and regulations .
I appreciate some may not take it seriously but I do and there are plenty of other forums that hopefully have a clientele that know how to conduct themselves.
Goodbye.
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Posted on: Feb 7 2013, 09:29 AM


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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 6 2013, 08:57 PM) *
I suppose that compensates for his elder brother William Rufus having fathered none, William being a flamboyant homosexual.


Do I detect a hint of homophobia my dear fellow ? Actually a lot of kings possessed a liking for , what one could euphemistically entitle public school syndrome , Edward 11 , James 1, Edward V111 ( allegedly ) ,so the resurrection of a " proper " man should be welcomed .
Back to Henry 1 , it would be interesting to know just how much involvement he had with his brother's untimely demise or was it just down to the scurrilous press at the time . The history that followed is more relevant : Stephen verses Matilda, now that was a power struggle. wink.gif
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Posted on: Feb 6 2013, 08:15 PM


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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 4 2013, 07:31 PM) *
Ignominious end, lying under a car park in Liecester, but we have another king similarly buried under a car park in Reading - Henry Beauclerk. Shame he can't be given a fitting resting place too, but good that Richard will get a decent burial in the end.


I agree , here we have another monarch who would benefit from a little PR ,and a bit more archery practise . laugh.gif I must admit to be unaware that he was under tarmac so let us hope the powers that be commence digging.
He , allegedly , fathered at least 20 illegitimate children , so those of us who can trace our family tree back to the 12th century would welcome the chance to say hello to Uncle Henry .
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Posted on: Feb 6 2013, 10:20 AM


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In my opinion ,which may or may not be correct , the problem stems from the the pure volume of traffic trying to get from Newbury to Thatcham , and back . This is based on the queue at the Robin Hood roundabout which snakes back towards the police roundabout . Now this is "local" traffic and the only way to alleviate the congestion is remove all junctions thus increasing the throughput . Anyone who uses the duel carriageway from the police station will be fully aware that the outside lane ,which ostensibly is for the A34 , is used by those who need the A4 and then try to filter in at the lights . This has no bearing on the volume / hour just the blood pressure of those in the correct lane.

That's the problem , anyone know the answer ? mellow.gif
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Posted on: Feb 5 2013, 07:25 PM


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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 5 2013, 06:17 PM) *
Perhaps they will put up signs for the duration - Newbury Closed please find alternative route? rolleyes.gif


Having lost 20 minutes of my life sat in non moving traffic between Halfords and the po;ice roundabout this evening around 6pm , one may not have to wait to long . angry.gif
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Posted on: Feb 5 2013, 01:34 PM


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I am not entirely sure why we get so irate over the nefarious activities of the " honourable " members of Parliament .
The dust has hardly settled over the expenses scandal and further misdemeanour's comes to light .

Maybe if we shot a few it would encourage a more responsible attitude. angry.gif
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Posted on: Feb 5 2013, 11:02 AM


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QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 4 2013, 06:56 PM) *
No, you just didn't include a link, a title detailing what this has anything to do with, mention any names or even tell us it was a news story. I have since read a paper, so now know.


Some members on here seem to be able to add the necessary link to the relevant story with no problem at all . Some like me have no idea how it achieved even though I have been told .

I tend to take the view that everyone is up to speed on the latest news and therefore are fully aware of what any contributor is on about.

Even me ! laugh.gif
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Posted on: Feb 4 2013, 01:22 PM


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I see they have confirmed that the remains unearthed in a Leicester car park is indeed that of the late Richard 111 .
Maybe it will encourage a bit more research into this much maligned monarch. Most of our knowledge is via the Shakespearean take on the Roses War which has a tendency to colour the issue . ( Pun not intended ).
Now I have no reason to brand him a saint, but he was of his time ,and his time required strong leaders. The fate of the Princes in the tower may be laid at his door ,or more than likely one of his cronies ,but his sense of right and the strengthening of the legal system should not go unmentioned .

All our Monarchs have their place in our history , bad or good ,( not too many fall in the latter category ) so the more we can enhance our knowledge the better.
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Posted on: Feb 4 2013, 11:47 AM


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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 3 2013, 08:08 PM) *
Hot stuff indeed. biggrin.gif


Just realised what I said .

faire une gaffe . laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Posted on: Feb 3 2013, 07:06 PM


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QUOTE (Penelope @ Feb 3 2013, 06:16 PM) *
Non, je suis desole.


Maybe you should . wink.gif
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Posted on: Feb 3 2013, 06:12 PM


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QUOTE (Penelope @ Feb 3 2013, 05:13 PM) *
If gays want to get married then so what? Why should heterosexuals be the only miserable ones.


Penelope , you don't by any chance attend the same bridge club as lady Tup ? laugh.gif
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Posted on: Feb 3 2013, 03:30 PM


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QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 3 2013, 02:50 PM) *
Your comment was tongue in cheek, I realize, but you can still learn modern (and even classical) languages in state schools as far as I know. Unfortunately it's not still a compulsory part of the syllabus.

Anyway, first I've heard that knowing French is pretentious!


I would be more than pleased if they achieved elementary English . wink.gif
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Posted on: Feb 3 2013, 01:16 PM


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It is like the old adage of which came first the chicken or the egg ?

Did a religious service of marriage supersede the civil ? Research on the matter is a little thin . We know there were ceremonies for those in high places but when did the hoi polloi get involved ? At what junction did the two become intertwined in order for a common outcome ?

The point is , has the church more or less right to dictate who should and who shouldn't marry and by whom ,and does the state have a mandate to interfere anyway ?

Like a lot of things is it more a case of both sides making up the rules as they go along and when it suits to do so. rolleyes.gif
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Posted on: Feb 3 2013, 12:14 PM


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Poor old Simon , who expressed his concern with the best of intentions over the hapless Captain Watson , is finding his post becoming increasingly distant .

Maybe we should concentrate our opinions on the subject not the opinionators . sad.gif
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Posted on: Feb 3 2013, 11:19 AM


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Strange as it may seem pretentious is not something that has been levelled at me before so I will add it to my curriculum vitae post haste .

If I had one . tongue.gif
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Posted on: Feb 3 2013, 08:34 AM


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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 2 2013, 11:30 PM) *
pourquoi ?


Because he does . rolleyes.gif
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Posted on: Feb 2 2013, 04:20 PM


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Shortly after young Richard was elected I asked him to vote ( free ) against a private members bill that was being placed before the House . I presented my argument and , because of his background , I expected his support . Oh dear , it was not so much he disagreed with my viewpoint more he didn't understand it . Now I appreciate he has matured and a little more au feu with the world but he still does not inspire confidence .

Should go a long way in politics . wink.gif
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Posted on: Feb 2 2013, 04:00 PM


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QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 2 2013, 12:25 PM) *
I see there are many more signatories to this petition (9,447) than there are to urge Congress to back President Obama's call for gun control (just 501). Both need 100,000 before the end of February to go through.

Sorry, but I don't have much truck with the attitude of the American people at the moment. And I certainly don't want to go on a White House database.


I can't help feeling that I am already on Uncle Sam's persona non grata list so any opportunity to ruffle his feathers is welcome . Will have to read up on the gentleman concerned before I comment further but when it comes to character assassination, government cronies are in the top league .
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Posted on: Feb 2 2013, 12:21 PM


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QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 2 2013, 10:27 AM) *
About bacon, maybe... smile.gif



Rather prophetic in view of the finding of pig meat in supposed halal food being offered to prisoners .
You couldn't make it up could you . laugh.gif
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Posted on: Feb 2 2013, 12:17 PM


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Fait accompli Sir .
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Posted on: Feb 2 2013, 12:01 PM


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QUOTE (motormad @ Feb 2 2013, 11:13 AM) *
That's a fair point. But discipline has declined throughout all age ranges, I hate to say it but I'm more often going to be barged infront of/past/out of the of an old lady that I am a 18-20 year old. That may just be me but it's what I've personally seen.

On the topic of young people, as some may know I am probably the youngest on this forum, I'm 21, so it's a lot fresher for me RE "what it's like to be young". And frankly if you give young people something to do then all of the trouble that they cause goes away. I know that some kids who would be abusive, go to parks and beat up kids (normally beating up me tongue.gif) but when a local youth club started that I attended for a while, it all sort of stopped because we were all having a good time.

There are just some bad kids you can't help, from the fact of how they are raised or they choose bad friends, but that as can be said for everyone of any age range.
I am not EXCUSING them from their actions because of their boredom but it's very easy to cast judgement without UNDERSTANDING them.



I will admit I struggle to understand the entire first paragraph. So I can't really discuss it.

So moving on from there, I'm sure there are people who enjoyed national service, who perhaps went on to serve in the army in one way or another. Some don't. It's not a life for everyone, for example while I don't have much of a problem with authority if a short bloke started shouting at me for little to no reason I'd probably go cry in the corner with a tub of ice cream.

Sometimes you offend me, does that mean I can remove you from society? No. Everyone (unless you are a criminal laugh.gif) has rights to be able to go to the shops, to have fresh air, spend their time in whatever way they see fit.
I've had my stuff nicked before, mostly it was a kid I went to school with called Tom. He would steal my fountain pen and then I would have it returned 15 minutes later with all the ink missing and the tip bent. Luckily they were 48p from the school shop.
But do I want to remove him from society? No.

What sort of "higher being" can dictate who to "remove from society"? Who has the right to be able to judge that sort of decision? Not you or I, or any living being, that's for sure. Fate will decide. (Jesus won't because he doesn't exist).

The majority of people I went to school with (even those kids who were bullys or thugs during secondary school) have since turned around and most, if not all, are in some sort of education or employment. I haven't spoken with all of them but from seeing on Facebook, some of the people you least expected are actually doing very well for themselves.

There is just as much of a problem to society caused by the older age ranges as there is the younger.. have you seen Hot Fuzz? Everyone on there was really old.
And to simply shoe-horn every teen into national service is a very ancient view and not keeping with that of a modern Britain.


Paradoxically I tend to agree with your philosophy and as stated in my first posting " is conscription the answer "? Not it is .
Had it been a continuous process then it could be answered far easier ,but at what age would you start and who would be exempt . With reference to the age aspect , I agree that maturity does not in itself breed a responsible adult but those "oldies" that offend , both socially and personally , no doubt did not fall into the little angel bracket when young.
In an ideal society there would be adequate work available for all school leavers which would go an awfully long way to alleviate the problem . Now this is not going to happen so we have to think outside the box as they say and some form of enforced work may, and I reiterate , may be the answer.

Over to you . wink.gif

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Posted on: Feb 2 2013, 09:38 AM


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QUOTE (motormad @ Feb 1 2013, 08:32 PM) *
Oh move out of the 19th Century.
Giving a load of already angry and bored teens and adolescence guns and knives will not help. You can't solve or eliminate crime simply by removing the people (and I'm not implying all crime is done by young people at all, I'm just speaking relatively).


For starters young man conscripted personal did not enjoy the privilege of ordnance as afforded to their regular contemporaries . Though they were trained in the use of, it was under strict supervision.
What conscription did achieve was to instil an element of self respect in those who had come from a less than auspicious background and , along with the available training , empowered their future prospects.

I have never met a single person who enjoyed their time squad bashing . white washing the fence or 101 other menial tasks but they did appreciate civilian life a lot more after demob.

Why shouldn't we remove those who offend from society ? The man who said " to err is human to forgive divine " must have been on the magic mushrooms or never had his house burgled . angry.gif

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Posted on: Feb 1 2013, 08:28 PM


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QUOTE (JaneGibbs @ Feb 1 2013, 07:44 PM) *
That is terrible news and sad. Why anybody should want to damage other peoples property is beyond me. Those people need to be caught and seriously punished.


They do it because they can . It is like some badge of honour to the low life that exists at that end of the pond and though we may have difficulty in comprehending their actions ,they certainly do not have the same problem in knowing the effect it has on the victim.

One wonders what change ,if any , the re-introduction of conscription would have ? angry.gif


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