pot holes sale? Options

[gel]

Here North of the M4 the roads are showing appalling number of potholes presumably caused by recent snow and salt on roads where they bother to treat.
Water & frost gets in/thaws & expands and that's the end of the repair.

Local salt bins remain empty still surprisingly.
Is it same in others parts of WBCville?

The Council's policy of "plug & run" as I call it, is part of problem in that these temporary repairs
are not good value in that they break down so soon, especially in current weather.
Temporary repairs keep on getting redone, which is £wasteful£!

Even when they get round to doing a pucker job ie drilling out loose material and properly filling, they fail to finish off by sealing around edge of repair with hot bitumen; the edge then becomes the weak point, as passing vehicles will gradually cause it to erode at this point.

We still have proper pot hole repairs evident done by the Old County Council, so are many years old; these are recognisable by the black (bitumen) strip around the edge of the infill; this has kept them intact for many a year.

This may cost slightly more/take marginally longer, but the proof of their effectiveness is plain to see WBC!!!
And you can say good for environment as they use less materials than needed for multiple repairs/less visits by Contractors + cause less damage to tyres.
...and less likely to cause last minute swerving manouvres.

[Biker1]

Here North of the M4 the roads are showing appalling number of potholes presumably caused by recent snow and salt on roads where they bother to treat.
Water & frost gets in/thaws & expands and that's the end of the repair.

Local salt bins remain empty still surprisingly.
Is it same in others parts of WBCville?

The Council's policy of "plug & run" as I call it, is part of problem in that these temporary repairs
are not good value in that they break down so soon, especially in current weather.
Temporary repairs keep on getting redone, which is £wasteful£!

Even when they get round to doing a pucker job ie drilling out loose material and properly filling, they fail to finish off by sealing around edge of repair with hot bitumen; the edge then becomes the weak point, as passing vehicles will gradually cause it to erode at this point.

We still have proper pot hole repairs evident done by the Old County Council, so are many years old; these are recognisable by the black (bitumen) strip around the edge of the infill; this has kept them intact for many a year.

This may cost slightly more/take marginally longer, but the proof of their effectiveness is plain to see WBC!!!
And you can say good for environment as they use less materials than needed for multiple repairs/less visits by Contractors + cause less damage to tyres.
...and less likely to cause last minute swerving manouvres.

I agree.
The standard of road repairs is sadly lacking.
If you think it is bad in a car try negotiating them on a motorcycle!
Very dangerous.
Admittedly a large number of faults appear after the weather we have had but they should be repaired properly ASAP.

It seems the only way to get the council to move on these is to report them.

[Iommi]

It seems the only way to get the council to move on these is to report them.

Yes...but that don't help the first person to discover them!

[Biker1]

Yes...but that don't help the first person to discover them!

Agreed again!

I have had 2 ruined car wheels + tyres on bad potholes in the WBC area.
Tried claiming but nothing doing.

Seems there is no ideal solution.

Just have to be careful.

[spartacus]

PROBLEM:
The cost of materials (oil based bitumens) for road construction continues to rocket.
Demands for Council Taxes to be lowered continue to be made by the general public.

Without spending an awful lot more on road maintenance you ain't going to get a lot of bang for your bucks and cannot afford the Gold Plated option on road repairs. While money is tight the only repairs we'll see will be the cheap and cheerful 'fire-fighting' type rather than full re-construction.

[Biker1]

PROBLEM:
The cost of materials (oil based bitumens) for road construction continues to rocket.
Demands for Council Taxes to be lowered continue to be made by the general public.

However the council tax still goes up by more than the rate of inflation.

So does my my road tax!

[Strafin]

If they were fixed properly in the first place they wouldn't all be continuing to cause a problem. The Tories big manifesto pledge just befor they took control of the council was sorting out all the roads, which they have failed to do so I think people are entitled to have a bit of a moan. As far as hitting pot holes goes, and to quote plenty of others on here, "what if the pothole was a child...."

[JeffG]

As far as hitting pot holes goes, and to quote plenty of others on here, "what if the pothole was a child...."

Your logic escapes me . That's a child lying in the road, wearing camouflage and not moving, right?

[blackdog]

PROBLEM:
The cost of materials (oil based bitumens) for road construction continues to rocket.
Demands for Council Taxes to be lowered continue to be made by the general public.

Without spending an awful lot more on road maintenance you ain't going to get a lot of bang for your bucks and cannot afford the Gold Plated option on road repairs. While money is tight the only repairs we'll see will be the cheap and cheerful 'fire-fighting' type rather than full re-construction.

Only a small proportion of the WBC roads budget goes on repairs - while a lot goes on 'improvements' such as the Broadway, Market Place, etc. A rebalancing of the budget could free up a lot of cash for repairs.

[Strafin]

I was just taking the mickey a bit but to be fair, the bollards when they are hit; are at ground level and not really visible. People who hit them get slated on these boards as not paying enough attention but potholes are the same size and dimensions.

[Biker1]

I was just taking the mickey a bit but to be fair, the bollards when they are hit; are at ground level and not really visible. People who hit them get slated on these boards as not paying enough attention but potholes are the same size and dimensions.

Perhaps we should put huge red signs with white lettering in front of every pothole to warn drivers.

Oh no ............that doesn't work does it?

[Exhausted]

Here North of the M4 the roads are showing appalling number of potholes presumably caused by recent snow and salt on roads where they bother to treat.

How good, North of the M4 are Oxfordshire council compared with our WBC in terms of road repair and gritting the roads, considering that the latters responsibility ends a little way past the M4.

[user23]

However the council tax still goes up by more than the rate of inflation.

So does my my road tax!

So does the cost of oil.

[gel]

How good, North of the M4 are Oxfordshire council compared with our WBC in terms of road repair and gritting the roads, considering that the latters responsibility ends a little way past the M4.

Take the B4494 to Wantage road; WBC have done some recent repairs on this.
However, 1 mile up to the County Line either side of Border, it's WBC side that's riddled, including one large one/tyre ripper type within inches of the "Oxfordshire" sign; none visible on Oxon side!

[Biker1]

You can't win!!

Biker Hits Pothole

[Iommi]

You can't win!! Biker Hits Pothole

Just someone in the Old Bill being rubbish again.

[Strafin]

You can't win!!

Biker Hits Pothole

Should have been paying more attention. If you're on a bike you need to be extra vigilant as they are far easier to crash than four wheeled vehicles.

[Biker1]

Should have been paying more attention. If you're on a bike you need to be extra vigilant as they are far easier to crash than four wheeled vehicles.

So you seriously think this person should have been prosecuted over a crash that involved no one else?

Where accident investigators established that he was not to blame?

Agreed bikers need to be vigilant, which mostly they are - more than most car drivers - they have to be, but you cannot avoid every pothole when at speed.

When it comes to keeping roads in a safe condition the needs of bikers are very much ignored.

[Iommi]

Should have been paying more attention. If you're on a bike you need to be extra vigilant as they are far easier to crash than four wheeled vehicles.

One needs to be cautious of potholes, but they can be deceptive, or in the 'wrong' place.

[Strafin]

So you seriously think this person should have been prosecuted over a crash that involved no one else?

Where accident investigators established that he was not to blame?

Agreed bikers need to be vigilant, which mostly they are - more than most car drivers - they have to be, but you cannot avoid every pothole when at speed.

When it comes to keeping roads in a safe condition the needs of bikers are very much ignored.

Actually no I don't think he should have been prosecuted, that's harsh. I do think a large amount of bikers do regularly take greater chances, usually at speed, than other road users and end to complain quicker when it goes wrong. Part of the reason to have a bike though is for the thrill of the ride so I wouldn't expect the riders to all teeter about at 5mph either.