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Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 27 2015, 10:32 PM
http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/14360/Independent-parties-prove-to-be-a.html
L-to-R Charlie, Simon, Kettle, Peter, Clover, Dave
There is little sense in party politics in local government where everything should be about the issues and national party dogma has little relevance. What I believe local politics needs in Newbury is greater involvement and consensus, and objective rational debate with the evidence out in the open. There are some credible alternatives to traditional party politics this year - and that's not just a shaggy dog story.
Posted by: Turin Machine Apr 27 2015, 11:53 PM
Good luck, I hope you do well.
Posted by: Biker1 Apr 28 2015, 05:02 AM
What magnificent looking beasts!
<My favourite breed! 
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 28 2015, 06:09 AM
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 28 2015, 06:02 AM) 
What magnificent looking beasts!
<My favourite breed!
<My favourite breed!
But remember, Apoliticals aren't for everyone, they can be very independent and don't follow instructions well, and they will dig.
Posted by: NWNREADER Apr 28 2015, 08:17 AM
Surely, as Party members, none of these candidates are Independent?
Posted by: blackdog Apr 28 2015, 08:32 AM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Apr 28 2015, 09:17 AM)
Surely, as Party members, none of these candidates are Independent?
As far as I can work out of the four pictured one is against any green field development, but especially Sandleford; one is pro-Sandleford providing it is done well with a country park; and the other two want the planning system abolished to allow developers to build the huge number of houses needed without undue interference from authority.
I don't really see a party line there.
Posted by: HJD Apr 28 2015, 01:26 PM
In the original photo I notice the reporter has left Simon's name out, was there any particular reason I wonder 
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Posted by: NWNREADER Apr 28 2015, 02:45 PM
QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 28 2015, 09:32 AM)
As far as I can work out of the four pictured one is against any green field development, but especially Sandleford; one is pro-Sandleford providing it is done well with a country park; and the other two want the planning system abolished to allow developers to build the huge number of houses needed without undue interference from authority.
I don't really see a party line there.
I don't really see a party line there.
I didn't say they were one party, but the story begins 'The Apolitical party, The Green Party and UKIP'. UKIP are a Party.....
So none of the 'Independents' are free of a Party lead (it seems).
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 28 2015, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (HJD @ Apr 28 2015, 02:26 PM)
In the original photo I notice the reporter has left Simon's name out, was there any particular reason I wonder .
.Nothing sinister, the story was just about standing for District which Charlie, Dave, and Peter are, I'm only standing for Town and the story didn't touch on that.
Posted by: Petra Apr 28 2015, 06:22 PM
Dear Independents’,
I admire your zeitgeist, but sadly misplaced. Independents on here are wasting their time because they are never going to be satisfied. To achieve certain goals in politics you need the collective spirit of those that require change. Independent’s are just a bunch of free-thinking-individuals that either work on behalf of the ordinary people or with a sense of justice (falsely). To get things done, you need obedience and loyalty to a figurehead. Politicians or even people who work for bureaucratic organizations such as a councils’, need to be under the whip so that everybody is singing from the same song sheet. Council can’t or shouldn’t elect freethinking do-gooders, who in the end will mess things up and create havoc for everybody. Parties have a specific-agenda, which needs to be followed, implemented with precision and a degree of strict-collective control. They are there for the majority and that means making hard uncompromising decisions.
You can’t have people willy-nilly challenging every decision that their masters have ordered them to carry out. Don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting that there can’t be free thinkers under an umbrella of a controlled unit, but eventually a decisive decision needs to be taken and then followed loyally through.
At this election, whether it be General or local, there will only be one winner and that will be a party machine. Independents could be a spanner thrown in the works, which could cause confusion and no overall-winner. This would be no good for communities. Do you really want this?
Yours,
Petra.
Posted by: Turin Machine Apr 28 2015, 07:56 PM
As mad as a cut snake. Barking!
Posted by: CrackerJack Apr 28 2015, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 28 2015, 07:22 PM)
Dear Independents’,
To achieve certain goals in politics you need the collective spirit of those that require change.
To get things done, you need obedience and loyalty to a figurehead. Politicians or people need to be under the whip so that everybody is singing from the same song sheet
To achieve certain goals in politics you need the collective spirit of those that require change.
To get things done, you need obedience and loyalty to a figurehead. Politicians or people need to be under the whip so that everybody is singing from the same song sheet
You WILL be assimilated.
End of message
(I do love those dogs Simon but if I lived in the Ward it would be Dave that gets my tick if only to stop him chuntering in the pub when I meet him)
Posted by: MontyPython Apr 28 2015, 08:40 PM
Petra seems to be showing her Support for the "Supreme Leader" principle. It appears more and more like she is one of the "Brain-washed" underlings in Market Street every time she posts"
Posted by: Biker1 Apr 28 2015, 08:50 PM
I believe North Korea is nice this time of year?
Posted by: x2lls Apr 28 2015, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (CrackerJack @ Apr 28 2015, 09:34 PM)
(I do love those dogs Simon but if I lived in the Ward it would be Dave that gets my tick if only to stop him chuntering in the pub when I meet him)
Clem?, is that you?
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 28 2015, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (CrackerJack @ Apr 28 2015, 09:34 PM)
(I do love those dogs Simon but if I lived in the Ward it would be Dave that gets my tick if only to stop him chuntering in the pub when I meet him)
And you have discerning sensibilities, they are quite the sweeties. As for voting, in the Town Council election where I'm standing with Charlie, Dave, and Mark, ward residents get four votes and can in fact vote for all four of us Apoliticals.
Posted by: je suis Charlie Apr 28 2015, 09:17 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 28 2015, 07:22 PM)
Dear Independents’,
I admire your zeitgeist, but sadly misplaced. Independents on here are wasting their time because they are never going to be satisfied. To achieve certain goals in politics you need the collective spirit of those that require change. Independent’s are just a bunch of free-thinking-individuals that either work on behalf of the ordinary people or with a sense of justice (falsely). To get things done, you need obedience and loyalty to a figurehead. Politicians or even people who work for bureaucratic organizations such as a councils’, need to be under the whip so that everybody is singing from the same song sheet. Council can’t or shouldn’t elect freethinking do-gooders, who in the end will mess things up and create havoc for everybody. Parties have a specific-agenda, which needs to be followed, implemented with precision and a degree of strict-collective control. They are there for the majority and that means making hard uncompromising decisions.
You can’t have people willy-nilly challenging every decision that their masters have ordered them to carry out. Don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting that there can’t be free thinkers under an umbrella of a controlled unit, but eventually a decisive decision needs to be taken and then followed loyally through.
At this election, whether it be General or local, there will only be one winner and that will be a party machine. Independents could be a spammer thrown in the works, which could cause confusion and no overall-winner. This would be good for communities. Bet you really want this.
Yours,
Petra.
I admire your zeitgeist, but sadly misplaced. Independents on here are wasting their time because they are never going to be satisfied. To achieve certain goals in politics you need the collective spirit of those that require change. Independent’s are just a bunch of free-thinking-individuals that either work on behalf of the ordinary people or with a sense of justice (falsely). To get things done, you need obedience and loyalty to a figurehead. Politicians or even people who work for bureaucratic organizations such as a councils’, need to be under the whip so that everybody is singing from the same song sheet. Council can’t or shouldn’t elect freethinking do-gooders, who in the end will mess things up and create havoc for everybody. Parties have a specific-agenda, which needs to be followed, implemented with precision and a degree of strict-collective control. They are there for the majority and that means making hard uncompromising decisions.
You can’t have people willy-nilly challenging every decision that their masters have ordered them to carry out. Don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting that there can’t be free thinkers under an umbrella of a controlled unit, but eventually a decisive decision needs to be taken and then followed loyally through.
At this election, whether it be General or local, there will only be one winner and that will be a party machine. Independents could be a spammer thrown in the works, which could cause confusion and no overall-winner. This would be good for communities. Bet you really want this.
Yours,
Petra.
Yes my dear, but, all change starts with a seed, a seed of truth or a seed of liberty. In this case it's a seed of change. If it is watered by the rains of discontent and fed with the very essence of freedom from oppression it can only, nay, WILL only grow to a veritable giant of reason and truth within the fallow mind of such as you where mere dross is substituted for the thought and dreams that will one day topple the establishment and shake society to it's core. Then, and only then will we have people to lead us whome we can truly point at and hold our children up to see them and exclaim "there my child, there is a being of worth, emulate him and be proud for there is the way of truth"!
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 28 2015, 09:27 PM
Is the circus in town?
Posted by: x2lls Apr 28 2015, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 28 2015, 10:17 PM)
Yes my dear, but, all change starts with a seed, a seed of truth or a seed of liberty. In this case it's a seed of change. If it is watered by the rains of discontent and fed with the very essence of freedom from oppression it can only, nay, WILL only grow to a veritable giant of reason and truth within the fallow mind of such as you where mere dross is substituted for the thought and dreams that will one day topple the establishment and shake society to it's core. Then, and only then will we have people to lead us whome we can truly point at and hold our children up to see them and exclaim "there my child, there is a being of worth, emulate him and be proud for there is the way of truth"!
Good ol' Nigel!!
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 28 2015, 11:46 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 28 2015, 07:22 PM)
Independent’s are just a bunch of free-thinking-individuals that either work on behalf of the ordinary people or with a sense of justice.
No-wonder they have so many enemies in political circles!Rational people just need a powerful argument presented. You don't need whipping if the mission and the case has been adequately made. If it hasn't then free thinking do gooders have their place to hold people to account. The current version of 'adversarial politics' we have in West Berks has failed.
We need sensible direction; not robust whips.
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 29 2015, 03:18 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 28 2015, 07:22 PM)
Dear Independents’,
I admire your zeitgeist, but sadly misplaced. Independents on here are wasting their time because they are never going to be satisfied. To achieve certain goals in politics you need the collective spirit of those that require change. Independent’s are just a bunch of free-thinking-individuals that either work on behalf of the ordinary people or with a sense of justice (falsely). To get things done, you need obedience and loyalty to a figurehead. Politicians or even people who work for bureaucratic organizations such as a councils’, need to be under the whip so that everybody is singing from the same song sheet. Council can’t or shouldn’t elect freethinking do-gooders, who in the end will mess things up and create havoc for everybody. Parties have a specific-agenda, which needs to be followed, implemented with precision and a degree of strict-collective control. They are there for the majority and that means making hard uncompromising decisions.
You can’t have people willy-nilly challenging every decision that their masters have ordered them to carry out. Don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting that there can’t be free thinkers under an umbrella of a controlled unit, but eventually a decisive decision needs to be taken and then followed loyally through.
At this election, whether it be General or local, there will only be one winner and that will be a party machine. Independents could be a spanner thrown in the works, which could cause confusion and no overall-winner. This would be no good for communities. Do you really want this?
Yours,
Petra.
I admire your zeitgeist, but sadly misplaced. Independents on here are wasting their time because they are never going to be satisfied. To achieve certain goals in politics you need the collective spirit of those that require change. Independent’s are just a bunch of free-thinking-individuals that either work on behalf of the ordinary people or with a sense of justice (falsely). To get things done, you need obedience and loyalty to a figurehead. Politicians or even people who work for bureaucratic organizations such as a councils’, need to be under the whip so that everybody is singing from the same song sheet. Council can’t or shouldn’t elect freethinking do-gooders, who in the end will mess things up and create havoc for everybody. Parties have a specific-agenda, which needs to be followed, implemented with precision and a degree of strict-collective control. They are there for the majority and that means making hard uncompromising decisions.
You can’t have people willy-nilly challenging every decision that their masters have ordered them to carry out. Don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting that there can’t be free thinkers under an umbrella of a controlled unit, but eventually a decisive decision needs to be taken and then followed loyally through.
At this election, whether it be General or local, there will only be one winner and that will be a party machine. Independents could be a spanner thrown in the works, which could cause confusion and no overall-winner. This would be no good for communities. Do you really want this?
Yours,
Petra.
Yeah we don't want none of this old "Electing a person to represent you in Parliament do we"
We want them to do as they are told by "those who were born to lead" don't we?
Have you noticed the Anagram? Petra = "ePrat" very apt!
Posted by: On the edge Apr 29 2015, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 29 2015, 04:18 PM)
Yeah we don't want none of this old "Electing a person to represent you in Parliament do we"
We want them to do as they are told by "those who were born to lead" don't we?
Have you noticed the Anagram? Petra = "ePrat" very apt!
We want them to do as they are told by "those who were born to lead" don't we?
Have you noticed the Anagram? Petra = "ePrat" very apt!
How very true! Why on earth would we want anyone seriously debating the issues of the day in the House, or Council Chamber and after hearing what had been said deciding how to proceed. The very idea!!
Goodness Cognosco, you'll be suggesting democracy next!
Posted by: Petra Apr 29 2015, 06:18 PM
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 28 2015, 09:17 PM)
Yes my dear, but, all change starts with a seed, a seed of truth or a seed of liberty. In this case it's a seed of change. If it is watered by the rains of discontent and fed with the very essence of freedom from oppression it can only, nay, WILL only grow to a veritable giant of reason and truth within the fallow mind of such as you where mere dross is substituted for the thought and dreams that will one day topple the establishment and shake society to it's core. Then, and only then will we have people to lead us whome we can truly point at and hold our children up to see them and exclaim "there my child, there is a being of worth, emulate him and be proud for there is the way of truth"!
Dear je suis Charlie,
Precisely, and that seed started after the war and continued when we joined the Common Market. We then grew and developed into what we’ve got now. But the process doesn’t end there. The truth depends on one’s point of view. But to many, that truth and direction is the European Union, and that can only be achieved by the collective response of Europhile parties. je suis Charlie, je suis!
Yours,
Petra
Posted by: Petra Apr 29 2015, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 28 2015, 11:46 PM)
No-wonder they have so many enemies in political circles!Rational people just need a powerful argument presented. You don't need whipping if the mission and the case has been adequately made. If it hasn't then free thinking do gooders have their place to hold people to account. The current version of 'adversarial politics' we have in West Berks has failed.
We need sensible direction; not robust whips.
Dear Mr Capp,
I do like your idyllic utopian vision. I presume it is hidden in the corner of your mind, ready to be released onto the world? What you say would be superb if we were living in a world of intelligence, instead of witless wanderings by the walking-lifeless. Whips are necessary to make sure those that swear allegiance to their masters obey them. Those that flounder are quickly sent to Coventry and expunged. Rational people are few and far between, I presume you knew this and you were just posturing.
Yours,
Petra
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 29 2015, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 29 2015, 07:19 PM)
Dear Mr Capp,
I do like your idyllic utopian vision. I presume it is hidden in the corner of your mind, ready to be released onto the world? What you say would be superb if we were living in a world of intelligence, instead of witless wanderings by the walking-lifeless. Whips are necessary to make sure those that swear allegiance to their masters obey them. Those that flounder are quickly sent to Coventry and expunged. Rational people are few and far between, I presume you knew this and you were just posturing.
Yours,
Petra
I do like your idyllic utopian vision. I presume it is hidden in the corner of your mind, ready to be released onto the world? What you say would be superb if we were living in a world of intelligence, instead of witless wanderings by the walking-lifeless. Whips are necessary to make sure those that swear allegiance to their masters obey them. Those that flounder are quickly sent to Coventry and expunged. Rational people are few and far between, I presume you knew this and you were just posturing.
Yours,
Petra
Oh yes beat me whip me complete domination whoar!
Now you have started talking interesting......do keep it up?
Posted by: Turin Machine Apr 29 2015, 07:08 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 29 2015, 07:18 PM)
Dear je suis Charlie,
Precisely, and that seed started after the war and continued when we joined the Common Market. We then grew and developed into what we’ve got now. But the process doesn’t end there. The truth depends on one’s point of view. But to many, that truth and direction is the European Union, and that can only be achieved by the collective response of Europhile parties. je suis Charlie, je suis!
Yours,
Petra
Precisely, and that seed started after the war and continued when we joined the Common Market. We then grew and developed into what we’ve got now. But the process doesn’t end there. The truth depends on one’s point of view. But to many, that truth and direction is the European Union, and that can only be achieved by the collective response of Europhile parties. je suis Charlie, je suis!
Yours,
Petra
I am Charlie, I am. ? Illiterate in French AND English. How quaint.
Posted by: Turin Machine Apr 29 2015, 07:09 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 29 2015, 07:30 PM)
Oh yes beat me whip me complete domination whoar!
Now you have started talking interesting......do keep it up?
Now you have started talking interesting......do keep it up?
Cheap trollop.
Posted by: Turin Machine Apr 29 2015, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 29 2015, 07:19 PM)
Dear Mr Capp,
I do like your idyllic utopian vision. I presume it is hidden in the corner of your mind, ready to be released onto the world? What you say would be superb if we were living in a world of intelligence, instead of witless wanderings by the walking-lifeless. Whips are necessary to make sure those that swear allegiance to their masters obey them. Those that flounder are quickly sent to Coventry and expunged. Rational people are few and far between, I presume you knew this and you were just posturing.
Yours,
Petra
I do like your idyllic utopian vision. I presume it is hidden in the corner of your mind, ready to be released onto the world? What you say would be superb if we were living in a world of intelligence, instead of witless wanderings by the walking-lifeless. Whips are necessary to make sure those that swear allegiance to their masters obey them. Those that flounder are quickly sent to Coventry and expunged. Rational people are few and far between, I presume you knew this and you were just posturing.
Yours,
Petra
dare pondus idonea fumo
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 29 2015, 08:03 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 29 2015, 07:19 PM)
I do like your idyllic utopian vision. I presume it is hidden in the corner of your mind, ready to be released onto the world? What you say would be superb if we were living in a world of intelligence, instead of witless wanderings by the walking-lifeless. Whips are necessary to make sure those that swear allegiance to their masters obey them. Those that flounder are quickly sent to Coventry and expunged. Rational people are few and far between, I presume you knew this and you were just posturing.
Not at all; if you need whips then your policy is more than likely wrong, but I believe governments have at times thrashed through policy to save face, rather than do what is right.
Posted by: MontyPython Apr 29 2015, 09:52 PM
So what do you think of Petra?
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Posted by: Petra Apr 30 2015, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 29 2015, 07:08 PM)
I am Charlie, I am. ? Illiterate in French AND English. How quaint.
Dear TM,
How quaint of you, my dear. You’ve obviously never been to a “Charlie” rally then. Among the French speakers and placards there were English ones with “I am Charlie, I am”. But according to my girlfriends, when I mentioned your quaint post, they said I shouldn’t be too hard on the likes of you. Most probably you have never been outside Newbury, they said, or not even been allowed a pass, and of course a poor education probably contributed to such a response. Where there is a forum there is also a mixture of the educated and the unschooled, which is called democracy. We are not living in a country that practice’s partition, thank God! So we should welcome such picturesque posts from the likes of your good-self. A tolerant society should always be preferred to the more harsher one’s, wouldn’t you say? Of course you would, turkey’s don’t agree on Christmas!
Yours,
Petra
Posted by: Petra Apr 30 2015, 06:54 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 29 2015, 08:03 PM)
Not at all; if you need whips then your policy is more than likely wrong, but I believe governments have at times thrashed through policy to save face, rather than do what is right.
Dear Mr Capp,
Truly? So if one’s policy is right, explained properly, then all MPs and people of the world should fall on their knees and be delighted with what is put before them? Nobody would dissent to something that is correctly made and explained and therefore you wouldn’t need whips? So ideological differences wouldn’t exist if you explain things to everybody’s liking? Amazing. So that is where the parties have gone wrong then, my dear. You are wasted on here. Do the members on here realize what a gem they have before them? Form a party Mr Capp and I am sure millions will line up behind you to cheer you to the rafters. Priceless, absolutely bloody priceless!
I will hand it to you, Mr Capp, you were right when you said “you can’t educate pork”.
Yours,
Petra
Posted by: MontyPython Apr 30 2015, 06:56 PM
They wonder what their love child would be like
Now we know
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Posted by: Petra Apr 30 2015, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (MontyPython @ Apr 30 2015, 06:56 PM)
They wonder what their love child would be like
Now we know
Now we know
Dear MP,
Truly you do.
Yours,
Petra
Posted by: Turin Machine Apr 30 2015, 07:15 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 30 2015, 07:53 PM)
Dear TM,
How quaint of you, my dear. You’ve obviously never been to a “Charlie” rally then. Among the French speakers and placards there were English ones with “I am Charlie, I am”. But according to my girlfriends, when I mentioned your quaint post, they said I shouldn’t be too hard on the likes of you. Most probably you have never been outside Newbury, they said, or not even been allowed a pass, and of course a poor education probably contributed to such a response. Where there is a forum there is also a mixture of the educated and the unschooled, which is called democracy. We are not living in a country that practice’s partition, thank God! So we should welcome such picturesque posts from the likes of your good-self. A tolerant society should always be preferred to the more harsher one’s, wouldn’t you say? Of course you would, turkey’s don’t agree on Christmas!
Yours,
Petra
How quaint of you, my dear. You’ve obviously never been to a “Charlie” rally then. Among the French speakers and placards there were English ones with “I am Charlie, I am”. But according to my girlfriends, when I mentioned your quaint post, they said I shouldn’t be too hard on the likes of you. Most probably you have never been outside Newbury, they said, or not even been allowed a pass, and of course a poor education probably contributed to such a response. Where there is a forum there is also a mixture of the educated and the unschooled, which is called democracy. We are not living in a country that practice’s partition, thank God! So we should welcome such picturesque posts from the likes of your good-self. A tolerant society should always be preferred to the more harsher one’s, wouldn’t you say? Of course you would, turkey’s don’t agree on Christmas!
Yours,
Petra
I think you will find it's " turkeys don't vote for Christmas ". You should know that being a turkey yourself.
Posted by: NWNREADER Apr 30 2015, 09:06 PM
I'm still wondering if Petra is related to Pauline......
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 30 2015, 09:33 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 30 2015, 07:54 PM)
Dear Mr Capp,
Truly? So if one’s policy is right, explained properly, then all MPs and people of the world should fall on their knees and be delighted with what is put before them? Nobody would dissent to something that is correctly made and explained and therefore you wouldn’t need whips? So ideological differences wouldn’t exist if you explain things to everybody’s liking? Amazing. So that is where the parties have gone wrong then, my dear. You are wasted on here. Do the members on here realize what a gem they have before them? Form a party Mr Capp and I am sure millions will line up behind you to cheer you to the rafters. Priceless, absolutely bloody priceless!
I will hand it to you, Mr Capp, you were right when you said “you can’t educate pork"
Truly? So if one’s policy is right, explained properly, then all MPs and people of the world should fall on their knees and be delighted with what is put before them? Nobody would dissent to something that is correctly made and explained and therefore you wouldn’t need whips? So ideological differences wouldn’t exist if you explain things to everybody’s liking? Amazing. So that is where the parties have gone wrong then, my dear. You are wasted on here. Do the members on here realize what a gem they have before them? Form a party Mr Capp and I am sure millions will line up behind you to cheer you to the rafters. Priceless, absolutely bloody priceless!
I will hand it to you, Mr Capp, you were right when you said “you can’t educate pork"
It seems you are incapable of being civil unless you are engaging with someone with which you agree. Perhaps after your relentless rudeness, sarcasm and hyperbole, you might find some time to debate? But I won't hold my breath, although I suspect you wish I would, such is the length of time we might have to wait.
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 30 2015, 09:34 PM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Apr 30 2015, 10:06 PM)
I'm still wondering if Petra is related to Pauline......
Whoever it is, and I couldn't care who, they have an ugly attitude.
Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2015, 12:11 AM
QUOTE (Petra @ Apr 30 2015, 07:53 PM)
Dear TM,
How quaint of you, my dear. You’ve obviously never been to a “Charlie” rally then. Among the French speakers and placards there were English ones with “I am Charlie, I am”. But according to my girlfriends, when I mentioned your quaint post, they said I shouldn’t be too hard on the likes of you. Most probably you have never been outside Newbury, they said, or not even been allowed a pass, and of course a poor education probably contributed to such a response. Where there is a forum there is also a mixture of the educated and the unschooled, which is called democracy. We are not living in a country that practice’s partition, thank God! So we should welcome such picturesque posts from the likes of your good-self. A tolerant society should always be preferred to the more harsher one’s, wouldn’t you say? Of course you would, turkey’s don’t agree on Christmas!
Yours,
Petra
How quaint of you, my dear. You’ve obviously never been to a “Charlie” rally then. Among the French speakers and placards there were English ones with “I am Charlie, I am”. But according to my girlfriends, when I mentioned your quaint post, they said I shouldn’t be too hard on the likes of you. Most probably you have never been outside Newbury, they said, or not even been allowed a pass, and of course a poor education probably contributed to such a response. Where there is a forum there is also a mixture of the educated and the unschooled, which is called democracy. We are not living in a country that practice’s partition, thank God! So we should welcome such picturesque posts from the likes of your good-self. A tolerant society should always be preferred to the more harsher one’s, wouldn’t you say? Of course you would, turkey’s don’t agree on Christmas!
Yours,
Petra
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Desole madame, desole.
Posted by: Petra May 1 2015, 05:55 PM
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 30 2015, 07:15 PM)
I think you will find it's " turkeys don't vote for Christmas ". You should know that being a turkey yourself.
Dear TM,
You are totally correct with the actual wording, but I was paraphrasing. A long word, I know, but it means I was reworking an old phrase. Maybe a concept, or a word, or a meaning of a word, you have never heard of before?
Yours,
Petra
Posted by: Petra May 1 2015, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 30 2015, 09:33 PM)
It seems you are incapable of being civil unless you are engaging with someone with which you agree. Perhaps after your relentless rudeness, sarcasm and hyperbole, you might find some time to debate? But I won't hold my breath, although I suspect you wish I would, such is the length of time we might have to wait.
Actually, Mr Capp I was using one of your well know phrases (“you can’t educate pork”), which you used when being rude to other posters. So calling be uncivil is a bit rich coming from you. I also answered your naïve question, but I think this has more to do with you chickening out of replying. You will find that most pretentious men who can’t get one over on a woman will either revert to abuse or run away and hide or camouflage themselves as a hurt and wounded animal. Your problem, Mr Capp is that your sacks (testiculus) are larger than your cerebrum cella and that has always given you (as in men) a disadvantage when trying to deal with an intelligent hierarchic female.
So why is it ok for you to be “rude, sarcastic and hyperbole,” while others have to accept your hypocrisy? The other trick you normally do when fearing a superior person, as opposed to your low level abilities, is put them on ignore. Never mind Mr Capp, it is not you or I who will judge, or even those at the same level as your-self on here, but the audience that comes to the circus to be amused, educated and get jovial hilarity.
Yours,
Petra
Posted by: Turin Machine May 1 2015, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ May 1 2015, 06:56 PM)
Actually, Mr Capp I was using one of your well know phrases (“you can’t educate pork”), which you used when being rude to other posters. So calling be uncivil is a bit rich coming from you. I also answered your naïve question, but I think this has more to do with you chickening out of replying. You will find that most pretentious men who can’t get one over on a woman will either revert to abuse or run away and hide or camouflage themselves as a hurt and wounded animal. Your problem, Mr Capp is that your sacks (testiculus) are larger than your cerebrum cella and that has always given you (as in men) a disadvantage when trying to deal with an intelligent hierarchic female.
So why is it ok for you to be “rude, sarcastic and hyperbole,” while others have to accept your hypocrisy? The other trick you normally do when fearing a superior person, as opposed to your low level abilities, is put them on ignore. Never mind Mr Capp, it is not you or I who will judge, or even those at the same level as your-self on here, but the audience that comes to the circus to be amused, educated and get jovial hilarity.
Yours,
Petra
So why is it ok for you to be “rude, sarcastic and hyperbole,” while others have to accept your hypocrisy? The other trick you normally do when fearing a superior person, as opposed to your low level abilities, is put them on ignore. Never mind Mr Capp, it is not you or I who will judge, or even those at the same level as your-self on here, but the audience that comes to the circus to be amused, educated and get jovial hilarity.
Yours,
Petra
When you say "cerebum cells" are you in fact referring to the lateral ventricle? Or are you paraphrasing again? Oh, and you can't be hyperbole, you can only use it. Come on, try to keep up at the back there!
Posted by: Andy Capp May 1 2015, 07:15 PM
QUOTE (Petra @ May 1 2015, 06:56 PM)
Actually, Mr Capp I was using one of your well know phrases (“you can’t educate pork”), which you used when being rude to other posters. So calling be uncivil is a bit rich coming from you. I also answered your naïve question, but I think this has more to do with you chickening out of replying. You will find that most pretentious men who can’t get one over on a woman will either revert to abuse or run away and hide or camouflage themselves as a hurt and wounded animal. Your problem, Mr Capp is that your sacks (testiculus) are larger than your cerebrum cella and that has always given you (as in men) a disadvantage when trying to deal with an intelligent hierarchic female.
So why is it ok for you to be “rude, sarcastic and hyperbole,” while others have to accept your hypocrisy? The other trick you normally do when fearing a superior person, as opposed to your low level abilities, is put them on ignore. Never mind Mr Capp, it is not you or I who will judge, or even those at the same level as your-self on here, but the audience that comes to the circus to be amused, educated and get jovial hilarity.
Yours,
Petra
So why is it ok for you to be “rude, sarcastic and hyperbole,” while others have to accept your hypocrisy? The other trick you normally do when fearing a superior person, as opposed to your low level abilities, is put them on ignore. Never mind Mr Capp, it is not you or I who will judge, or even those at the same level as your-self on here, but the audience that comes to the circus to be amused, educated and get jovial hilarity.
Yours,
Petra
I did post a big reply, but I scrubbed it when I realised I would look as daft as you.
Posted by: Biker1 May 2 2015, 09:14 AM
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 1 2015, 07:45 PM)
When you say "cerebum cells" are you in fact referring to the lateral ventricle? Or are you paraphrasing again? Oh, and you can't be hyperbole, you can only use it. Come on, try to keep up at the back there!
And I always thought that when used in anatomy it is the scrotal sac than Andy has there?
Posted by: Andy Capp May 2 2015, 09:21 AM
QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 2 2015, 10:14 AM)
And I always thought that when used in anatomy it is the scrotal sac than Andy has there?
You take an interest in some weird things!
Posted by: Turin Machine May 2 2015, 09:50 AM
Actually, the testiculus are commonly referred to as the male gonads and are carried within the sac. Perhaps one of her girlfriends has been advising her (badly) again.
Posted by: Andy Capp May 2 2015, 10:47 AM
You're all weird!
Posted by: Exhausted May 2 2015, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 2 2015, 10:50 AM)
Actually, the testiculus are commonly referred to as the male gonads and are carried within the sac. Perhaps one of her girlfriends has been advising her (badly) again.
Load of old b0llocks I reckon
Posted by: Simon Kirby May 2 2015, 03:27 PM
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 2 2015, 10:50 AM)
Actually, the testiculus are commonly referred to as the male gonads and are carried within the sac. Perhaps one of her girlfriends has been advising her (badly) again.
Testiculus? I call Godwin's Rule!
Posted by: Andy Capp May 2 2015, 06:21 PM
QUOTE (Exhausted @ May 2 2015, 01:21 PM)
Load of old b0llocks I reckon
Technically, testiculus is a load of old b0llock, but I suspect when people like Petra base a post on a Google search without understanding the subject in the first place, they will be vulnerable to getting it wrong. I should know, I do it all the time. LOL!
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