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Apr 18 2016, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE “The risk of death is approximately four times higher when a pedestrian is hit at 40mph compared to at 30mph, .” So there's no problem doing 40 in a 30 then - as long as when you do hit 'em, you have braked to below 30.. QUOTE "...and where speed MAY be a factor." You can look at this in two ways. EITHER he is being disingenuous and not categorising RTCs properly, but just taking the headline p.a.figure and dividing it by 365 OR he is stating the bleeding obvious since stationary vehicles can't collide So the whole sentence is neither fact nor helpful
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Apr 18 2016, 07:54 PM
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To add to the above, speed limits should be set by ensuring certain criteria are met with regard results of speed surveys, analysis of accident data and take into account local risk factors or road characteristics which might justify a lowering of a limit such as presence of adjacent properties, location of a school etc. The guidance is here but far too often it's overruled and an inappropriate is introduced for political reasons and may be against the recommendation of highway engineers. On a wide open road, where forward visibility is good, where there's open countryside to one side and where there are few properties alongside (so little risk of vehicles entering the road from private driveways) the motorist will feel that a 30mph is too slow and may be tempted to drive at 40mph as that 'feels right'. In those circumstances a 30mph may very well be too low and if it is brought in regardless you may find a high proportion of otherwise careful drivers using the road at a higher speed 'illegally'. In the past the police, who are involved in the decision process as statutory consulteees, would respond to consultations by indicating that whilst they would not formally object to the public consultation proposal they would emphasise that the local authority should not rely on that speed limit being enforced by them as they didn't support it (rather than formally object). Years go by and those roads which the Chief Constable previously said would not be enforced are now being enforced as they are quick and easy sites for coppers to get certain targets reached on their personal enforcement figures and appraisals. A quick half hour with the speed gun, appraisal figure achieved and back to the canteen for tea, toast and medals.... hurrah!! Monks Lane is such a site.......
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Apr 18 2016, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 18 2016, 08:58 PM) ...and I suspect the Reading side of Woolhampton. Couldn't possibly comment "Parking up in the layby outside the limit and on a length subject to national speed limit and looking back into the limit is a bit sneaky don't you think officer?" "errmmm....It's allowed.."
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Apr 18 2016, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 18 2016, 10:41 PM) Bah! Ain't they not got nuffin betta too do? police these days! All they wants to do is nick peepl breaking the laws! That's the rub.
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Apr 18 2016, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 18 2016, 11:30 PM) That's the rub. Oh, you and your rubs! Naughty boy!
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Apr 19 2016, 04:56 AM
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Speeding is just one factor of bad driving that causes accidents. It is concentrated on because it is easy to enforce and achieves quick results / money.
What about people who overtake badly, pull out in front, don't indicate, tailgate, drink drive, drug drive, phone drive, lack of maintenance / MOT, ignore traffic / level crossing lights, ignore zebra crossings, poor eyesight / health... etc. etc.....?
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Apr 19 2016, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 19 2016, 07:18 AM) This may all be redundant in a few years time. The gradual introduction of driverless cars and lorries is going to make things interesting. I suspect that in the interim, there will be much pressure to make spin off developments like reporting speed regulators and the like compulsory. I wonder if we'll see headlines such as 'More job losses in Police Traffic Division'? I don't think driveless cars will take off to be honest.
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Apr 19 2016, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Apr 19 2016, 11:04 AM) I don't think driveless cars will take off to be honest. Which is a shame as that would be a solution to Newbury's traffic jams.
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Apr 19 2016, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 19 2016, 11:41 AM) Which is a shame as that would be a solution to Newbury's traffic jams. How?
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Apr 19 2016, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 19 2016, 12:13 PM) How? 'cos they'd be in the area over the jams?
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