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> Halal, why should we put up with this?, If fox hunting with dogs is outlawed, why not Halal?
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post Oct 30 2017, 08:59 AM
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What lovely folks you are and no doubt perfect physical specimens.


Thank you for the compliment . Unfortunately as far as body beautiful goes a couple of old war wounds has left me a little wanting in that department .


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post Jan 24 2018, 09:40 PM
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Back to on topic..

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/...ols/?ref=twtrec


Caber throwers.


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post Jan 24 2018, 10:24 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20160411175643/...yhalalfood.com/

These people (other descriptions may apply) supply your local friendly Morrison's.


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post Jan 24 2018, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jan 24 2018, 10:24 PM) *
https://web.archive.org/web/20160411175643/...yhalalfood.com/

These people (other descriptions may apply) supply your local friendly Morrison's.


Let them get on with it. Next time you fancy slaughtering an animal, say a fox, just crack on. See what happens.😂
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post Jan 25 2018, 05:54 AM
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Post removed due to fear of the rozzers turning up en mass and arresting me for an alleged "hate crime"! tongue.gif
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post Jan 25 2018, 09:10 AM
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And the chosen few wonder why there is an increase in islamophobia? The ultimate irony is that if I kill a rat, in what may be deemed an inhumane manner, I will receive a visit from plod, if I offer up a religious observance as a defence then everything is hunkydory.
If we show disrespect to the animals in our care what chance has the wider world's wildlife got? angry.gif


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post Jan 27 2018, 05:30 PM
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/halal...r-video-7871779

Warning, distressing report, viewing for strong of stomach only.


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post Jan 27 2018, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jan 27 2018, 05:30 PM) *
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/halal...r-video-7871779

Warning, distressing report, viewing for strong of stomach only.


In this age of social media why has not the hounds of he ll descended upon parliament to get this stopped? This even goes against the halal supposed code whereby each animal should be dispatched out of the view of others. I suggest each and every one of us forward this clip to Beynon ( mp@richardbenyon.com ) and demand he asks a question in the house . This can only be stopped by public action.

Incidentally, why did the undercover reporter not say something at the time? He/she was within the law to call the RSPCA in at that point. Those animals that were still kicking on the end of the chain would in essence be skinned alive the other side of the door.

Any left wing do gooders wish to condone this behaviour?


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post Jan 27 2018, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 27 2018, 06:54 PM) *
In this age of social media why has not the hounds of he ll descended upon parliament to get this stopped? This even goes against the halal supposed code whereby each animal should be dispatched out of the view of others. I suggest each and every one of us forward this clip to Beynon ( mp@richardbenyon.com ) and demand he asks a question in the house . This can only be stopped by public action.

Incidentally, why did the undercover reporter not say something at the time? He/she was within the law to call the RSPCA in at that point. Those animals that were still kicking on the end of the chain would in essence be skinned alive the other side of the door.

Any left wing do gooders wish to condone this behaviour?


Personally I dont see any difference between this and hounds tearing a fox to pieces. Apart from the fact that one used to be carried out by white rich toffs and is now banned and the other by personages wanting meat to comply with instructions from a book thousands of years old about a sky fairy.

But hey we live in a world now where models are banned feom walking darts players on and James Bond is a rapist.
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post Jan 27 2018, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 27 2018, 06:54 PM) *
In this age of social media why has not the hounds of he ll descended upon parliament to get this stopped? This even goes against the halal supposed code whereby each animal should be dispatched out of the view of others. I suggest each and every one of us forward this clip to Beynon ( mp@richardbenyon.com ) and demand he asks a question in the house . This can only be stopped by public action.

Incidentally, why did the undercover reporter not say something at the time? He/she was within the law to call the RSPCA in at that point. Those animals that were still kicking on the end of the chain would in essence be skinned alive the other side of the door.

Any left wing do gooders wish to condone this behaviour?


As this isn't new news, has anyone done anything to make their views known to our law makers and regulators? Indeed, asked why RSPCA haven't prosecuted; religious issues notwithstanding, this clip still shows criminal activity.


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post Jan 27 2018, 10:02 PM
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four days ago

http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/23/halal-abatto...hroats-7253507/


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post Jan 27 2018, 10:06 PM
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"It also saw sheep being kicked in the face and head and being hurled into metal walls, taunted and frightened by workers at the abattoir."


Allah be praised!

"Artur Lewandowski, 33, of Darlington, admitted a charge of causing unnecessary suffering to four sheep by lifting them by their fleeces during the slaughter process. Kabeer Hussain, 44, of Bradford admitted one charge of failing to give 24 sheep sufficient time to lose consciousness after they were slaughtered. Kazeem Hussain, 53, of Bradford, pleaded guilty to two charges – one of not giving 19 sheep sufficient time to lose consciousness after they were slaughtered and a further charge of failing to cut the throats of six sheep in the required manner with a single cut."

A kind and compassionate religion.


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post Jan 27 2018, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 27 2018, 08:57 PM) *
As this isn't new news, has anyone done anything to make their views known to our law makers and regulators? Indeed, asked why RSPCA haven't prosecuted; religious issues notwithstanding, this clip still shows criminal activity.

They have. We all know that slaughter houses often attract vicious sadistic people to work in them, its part of the price of being a meat eater, nasty but true, but to do it for religious purposes is indefensible. Do what I do, boycott ANY business that you find using meat slaughtered in this manner. Use farm shops. And get involved with petitions.


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post Jan 27 2018, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jan 27 2018, 10:06 PM) *
"It also saw sheep being kicked in the face and head and being hurled into metal walls, taunted and frightened by workers at the abattoir."


Allah be praised!

"Artur Lewandowski, 33, of Darlington, admitted a charge of causing unnecessary suffering to four sheep by lifting them by their fleeces during the slaughter process. Kabeer Hussain, 44, of Bradford admitted one charge of failing to give 24 sheep sufficient time to lose consciousness after they were slaughtered. Kazeem Hussain, 53, of Bradford, pleaded guilty to two charges – one of not giving 19 sheep sufficient time to lose consciousness after they were slaughtered and a further charge of failing to cut the throats of six sheep in the required manner with a single cut."

A kind and compassionate religion.


Halal should go the way of fox hunting. Ita barbaric. Religion is irrelevant. Ban it. People can always eat quorn and be veggie if they dont want to eat meat slaughtered in a way that is based on the princpal of causing as little distress as possible to the animal. Alternatively they can always emigrate to a Country that does allow it.
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post Jan 28 2018, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jan 27 2018, 10:50 PM) *
Halal should go the way of fox hunting. Ita barbaric. Religion is irrelevant. Ban it. People can always eat quorn and be veggie if they dont want to eat meat slaughtered in a way that is based on the princpal of causing as little distress as possible to the animal. Alternatively they can always emigrate to a Country that does allow it.


Yes, quite so. Religion is irrelevant here as indeed the outrages often reported in other slaughterhouses demonstrate. We clearly need much tougher inspection regimes with appropriate strong enforcement and prosecuting powers.


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post Jan 28 2018, 09:47 AM
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I am no expert on the ways of the varies tooth fairies directive on the slaughter of animals for consumption , but it would appear that pre-stunning is perfectly acceptable within the islamic parameters providing the animal is still "alive" in order to bleed out fully. So no initial stunning is less a religious issue more a case of complete disregard for any suffering occurred. Let's face it the islamic world has followers who quite happily bomb children so a "dumb" animal has no chance. The Jewish kosher practice prohibits any form of stunning whatsoever as the animal needs to be conscious for the complete procedure.
If you found the lamb slaughter video upsetting I suggest you do not view a large bovine or you will never eat beef again.


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post Jan 28 2018, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 28 2018, 09:47 AM) *
I am no expert on the ways of the varies tooth fairies directive on the slaughter of animals for consumption , but it would appear that pre-stunning is perfectly acceptable within the islamic parameters providing the animal is still "alive" in order to bleed out fully. So no initial stunning is less a religious issue more a case of complete disregard for any suffering occurred. Let's face it the islamic world has followers who quite happily bomb children so a "dumb" animal has no chance. The Jewish kosher practice prohibits any form of stunning whatsoever as the animal needs to be conscious for the complete procedure.
If you found the lamb slaughter video upsetting I suggest you do not view a large bovine or you will never eat beef again.

You don't seem to understand do you? Snowflake Britain either thinks it's OK or simply choose to ignore it. So it must be OK.


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post Jan 28 2018, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 28 2018, 09:47 AM) *
I am no expert on the ways of the varies tooth fairies directive on the slaughter of animals for consumption , but it would appear that pre-stunning is perfectly acceptable within the islamic parameters providing the animal is still "alive" in order to bleed out fully. So no initial stunning is less a religious issue more a case of complete disregard for any suffering occurred. Let's face it the islamic world has followers who quite happily bomb children so a "dumb" animal has no chance. The Jewish kosher practice prohibits any form of stunning whatsoever as the animal needs to be conscious for the complete procedure.
If you found the lamb slaughter video upsetting I suggest you do not view a large bovine or you will never eat beef again.

There is to my mind a finer theological point to be found here, if God created all the creatures that inhabit the earth and if we also believe that "Then he will answer and he will say to them, 'Amen, I say to you, as much as you have not done to one of these little ones, neither have you done that to me.' then how can anyone excuse causing the deliberate suffering of any creature on religious grounds?
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post Jan 28 2018, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 28 2018, 11:12 AM) *
There is to my mind a finer theological point to be found here, if God created all the creatures that inhabit the earth and if we also believe that "Then he will answer and he will say to them, 'Amen, I say to you, as much as you have not done to one of these little ones, neither have you done that to me.' then how can anyone excuse causing the deliberate suffering of any creature on religious grounds?

He omitted it from the final draft of his autobiography because his publisher said no one would take any notice. Concentrate on " thou shall not fornicate with others" bits and you will have a best seller. Lets face it most of the human race doesn't give a monkeys how we treat the animals on the planet which is why so many species are going to the wall, which eventually will include us. The planet won't lose to much sleep over that, but things could have been so different.


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post Jan 28 2018, 11:53 AM
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I feel all animals should be stunned, but if animal welfare is a great concern then one should consider veganisum. From what I read, the cruelty in dairy is every bit as bad as the meat industry.
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