Another long road closure by TVP, A fatal RTA yes; but 12 hours road closure Options

[On the edge]

And here we are again.

Whose fault is it?
The police or the driver who deliberately made a choice not to stop for the police and, one would assume then drove like a loon.

Discuss.

Did we wake you? Oh dear, nice cup of tea then.

[Andy Capp]

Fortunately I rarely care what you say.

Which explains your lack of understanding!

[motormad]

Which explains your lack of understanding!

My "lack of understanding" as you call it is more like an alternative view from someone who doesn't think the world owes him anything and everything and a pension.

[Strafin]

I don't consider media reports , as yet not updated, as being the full circumstances.
In any case, my query referred to your comment "It was a long closure because the police need to cover their butts as they have killed yet another person."
Is that fact, or your belief?

It's fact, again it's a widely reported story. Who is considered responsible? Or who will ultimately take liability is a different question, one that I think you are getting at.

[Andy Capp]

My "lack of understanding" as you call it is more like an alternative view from someone who doesn't think the world owes him anything and everything and a pension.

What has that got to do with the price of chips?


Having an alternative point of view is fine, it only becomes an issue when people fail to do their homework, or simply make up things they claim other people have said, or not said.

[NWNREADER]

It's fact, again it's a widely reported story. Who is considered responsible? Or who will ultimately take liability is a different question, one that I think you are getting at.

It is fact, you say, the reason the road closure took so long was 'because the police need to cover their butts as they have killed yet another person.'? Fact, not an assumption/guess/other unfounded (as yet) statement?

Thinking through, the initial investigation would've taken a while, then (once called in) the IPCC team would want their own look at the scene with nothing changed.

I am sure, as a Councillor you were keen to work with facts on behalf of your constituents...... Would have been odd to make important decisions on minimal evidence, after all.....

[motormad]

I've not made up anything nor claimed anything.

[Andy Capp]

I've not made up anything nor claimed anything.

I have several times pulled you up where you have misrepresented or have overlooked what I have posted, that's all. Anyway, from my point of view; 'nuff said'.

[On the edge]

It is fact, you say, the reason the road closure took so long was 'because the police need to cover their butts as they have killed yet another person.'? Fact, not an assumption/guess/other unfounded (as yet) statement?

Thinking through, the initial investigation would've taken a while, then (once called in) the IPCC team would want their own look at the scene with nothing changed.

I am sure, as a Councillor you were keen to work with facts on behalf of your constituents...... Would have been odd to make important decisions on minimal evidence, after all.....

Of course thinking through takes some time but why keep the road shut? There really wouldn't be much evidence that couldn't be quickly pictured, or x-rayed, these days digital technology even gives measurements. So unless they want to take immediate geological samples, I really can't see why it takes so long. Onerous paperwork and interviewing don't need to be done in the carriageway

The Councillor analogy is a good one, ironically supporting this contention! The classic 'Yes Minister' move, swamp the poor b****** with paper and call it evidence! Apparently even Churchill suffered and demanded that information was distilled to one side of foolscap. He managed to win a war, we can't even keep the traffic flowing.

[newres]

I wonder why this one didn't take as long to investigate and gather evidence?

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2013/witness...chieveley-crash

[motormad]

Because there were not multiple police cars chasing after a young driver.

[Turin Machine]

Because there were not multiple police cars chasing after a young driver.

Currently searching for the Burbury Kid, last seen in McDonalds carpark.

[On the edge]

There was a good one reported in the Daily Mail (I found it on a train; honestly!!) today. Three cars and x cops managed to chase someone on a 50cc scooter! He was doing all of 15mph; which was recorded in the helicopter pilot transcript played to the trial Admittedly, he was driving after a ban, clearly a real menace to society! Perhaps we could get Halfords to donate the old bill a racing bike, after all according to some they get up past 20mph in Northbrook Street!

[motormad]

Currently searching for the Burbury Kid, last seen in McDonalds carpark.

I don't get your drift?
Maybe last seen in LOOSERVILLE?! Nwahhhh.

[Andy Capp]

I don't get your drift?
Maybe last seen in LOOSERVILLE?! Nwahhhh.

Too busy expertly controlling your own!