Shameful Tory (Benyon) election leaflet, Leaves a lot to be desired Options

[gel]

Just had Benyon's election leaflet; considering he's ex military, shameful that he hasn't the B*****S to mention
defence commitment/ military expenditure, or lack of.

In this crazy/ unstable world its a primary duty of incumbent government to ensure
we have the right resources allocated, instead of the steady erosion we've seen over recent years.
West Berkshire has a number of military bases within it too, and it must be a hit topic for all those families.

As expected, the issue top on many people's minds is not referred to at all
ie uncontrolled immigration.
Not a word on Europe either; didn't expect the broken promise by DC on the referendum promised last
time around to have been mentioned.

Let's see how the others stack up.

[Cognosco]

Just had Benyon's election leaflet; considering he's ex military, shameful that he hasn't the B*****S to mention
defence commitment/ military expenditure, or lack of.

In this crazy/ unstable world its a primary duty of incumbent government to ensure
we have the right resources allocated, instead of the steady erosion we've seen over recent years.
West Berkshire has a number of military bases within it too, and it must be a hit topic for all those families.

As expected, the issue top on many people's minds is not referred to at all
ie uncontrolled immigration.
Not a word on Europe either; didn't expect the broken promise by DC on the referendum promised last
time around to have been mentioned.

Let's see how the others stack up.

It is only propaganda leaflets, we know very well that after the election they just ignore what is promised in the manifesto's and just do exactly what they want anyway!

[x2lls]

It is only propaganda leaflets, we know very well that after the election they just ignore what is promised in the manifesto's and just do exactly what they want anyway!

If that's the case, then when not try UKIP?

[Cognosco]

If that's the case, then when not try UKIP?

Any guarantees they will be any different?

[Simon Kirby]

If that's the case, then when not try UKIP?

Yes, UKIP looks like the right choice if those things are important to you. I wish though that foreigners and war weren't primary preoccupations because the world could be a much better place if our energies were invested more positively and less fearfully. To be honest I don't think there is a party that offers hope as a core policy, playing on fears has always served the powerful better.

[x2lls]

Any guarantees they will be any different?

No, but we have the experience of the other lot...

[Nothing Much]

" the other lot..."

And PolMcPot from beyond the ice wall!

[x2lls]

Yes, UKIP looks like the right choice if those things are important to you. I wish though that foreigners and war weren't primary preoccupations because the world could be a much better place if our energies were invested more positively and less fearfully. To be honest I don't think there is a party that offers hope as a core policy, playing on fears has always served the powerful better.

What fears? It's a sad state of affairs when trying to say it as it is, is construed as anything but the message being told. BBC for example, guilty as charged.
We all know that UKIP will not get anything like a majority, but I REALLY want to give the other two a **** (Jeez, edited word was 'Dam*') well earned smack in the face for lying, going back on promises and generally screwing up this country and screwing it's citizens. AS farage said, we have a NATIONAL health service, not a bloody GLOBAL one.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

What fears? It's a sad state of affairs when trying to say it as it is, is construed as anything but the message being told. BBC for example, guilty as charged.
We all know that UKIP will not get anything like a majority, but I REALLY want to give the other two a **** (Jeez, edited word was 'Dam*') well earned smack in the face for lying, going back on promises and generally screwing up this country and screwing it's citizens. AS farage said, we have a NATIONAL health service, not a bloody GLOBAL one.

You are a disgrace. How dare you talk the truth.

[x2lls]

You are a disgrace. How dare you talk the truth.

Lol

[Andy Capp]

What fears? It's a sad state of affairs when trying to say it as it is, is construed as anything but the message being told. BBC for example, guilty as charged.
We all know that UKIP will not get anything like a majority, but I REALLY want to give the other two a **** (Jeez, edited word was 'Dam*') well earned smack in the face for lying, going back on promises and generally screwing up this country and screwing it's citizens. AS farage said, we have a NATIONAL health service, not a bloody GLOBAL one.

It is sad to think that people would vote for complete numpties just prove a point!

[Andy Capp]

You are a disgrace. How dare you talk the truth.

That relies on the assumption the hypothesis is true.

[Strafin]

It is sad to think that people would vote for complete numpties just prove a point!

They're all terrible, that's why I'm not voting (again).

[Biker1]

I wish though that foreigners and war weren't primary preoccupations because the world could be a much better place if our energies were invested more positively and less fearfully.

I wouldn't say war was a preoccupation, more like peace.
I fear a great deal more of the prospect of leaving NATO than I do the EU.

[blackdog]

I wouldn't say war was a preoccupation, more like peace.
I fear a great deal more of the prospect of leaving NATO than I do the EU.

Have I missed something? Which party is proposing we leave NATO?

[GMR]

Any guarantees they will be any different?

That is not the point, the point is that they get enough seats to make a difference, and I think they will.

[GMR]

It is sad to think that people would vote for complete numpties just prove a point!

And you prefer to keep the status quo and vote for one of the other numpties? Things will never change with that attitude.

[Simon Kirby]

And you prefer to keep the status quo and vote for one of the other numpties? Things will never change with that attitude.

I hear this kind of rhetoric quite a bit, but can you be more specific? Just because you don't like the policies of the current government doesn't make them a bunch of numpties.

[Simon Kirby]

Have I missed something? Which party is proposing we leave NATO?

The Greens would take the UK out of NATO. It's an extreme example, but in fairness to Biker it is rather what I was talking about.

North Atlantic Treaty Organisation

PD513 The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) is a military-oriented body, which imposes conflict cessation rather than encouraging peace building. As such, it is not a sustainable mechanism for maintaining peace in the world. We would take the UK out of NATO unilaterally. We would also end the so-called "special relationship" between the UK and the US.

That might sound a bit loony-tunes, but that's really rather my point - it's so much easier for people to take decisions in fear than it is to look for the sustainable answer built on hope and trust.

[GMR]

I hear this kind of rhetoric quite a bit, but can you be more specific? Just because you don't like the policies of the current government doesn't make them a bunch of numpties.

Voting for one of the other main parties then nothing will change and this country needs change. All the parties are pro European and we need different answers.