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Jun 12 2014, 08:40 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2014/mans-dr...catches-him-outCauses £1000 of damage has to pay £200 What the F**K ?????? For a repeat offender who has had an extensive criminal record.... no... Sorry, this is not acceptable of our justice system.
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Jun 12 2014, 08:56 AM
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It's the modern Britain MM. No punishment, no deterrent, just soft "rehabilitation". The modern way is for many is that someone else is responsible. They don't take responsibility for their own actions any more. "Someone else is to blame" Society???
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Jun 12 2014, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 12 2014, 09:56 AM) It's the modern Britain MM. No punishment, no deterrent, just soft "rehabilitation". The modern way is for many is that someone else is responsible. They don't take responsibility for their own actions any more. "Someone else is to blame" Society??? I think that has been true for at least 2,000 years. It seems the boy was on benefits, or out of work, but that didn't stop him getting hold of the equivalent of 10 pints!
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Jun 12 2014, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 12 2014, 09:56 AM) It's the modern Britain MM. No punishment, no deterrent, just soft "rehabilitation". The modern way is for many is that someone else is responsible. They don't take responsibility for their own actions any more. "Someone else is to blame" Society??? Unless you're a motorist, £10k for speeding on a motorway anyone?
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Jun 12 2014, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 12 2014, 10:36 AM) I think that has been true for at least 2,000 years. Sorry Andy I disagree. We live in a "blame society" Always someone or something else to blame for ones woes and wrongdoings. Does this guy think "Oh dear I've brought all this on myself and have only myself to blame for whatever is handed out to me" Which in this and most other cases is very little. These people will never change unless they are told firmly that their behaviour will not be tolerated (sorry Ruwan!) and will be punished severely. But then this has been understood and discussed to death by many before and nothing changes. (Awaits hang em high, Daily Mail, lack of compassion comments!!! )
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Jun 12 2014, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 12 2014, 03:09 PM) Sorry Andy I disagree. We live in a "blame society" Always someone or something else to blame for ones woes and wrongdoings. Does this guy think "Oh dear I've brought all this on myself and have only myself to blame for whatever is handed out to me" Which in this and most other cases is very little. These people will never change unless they are told firmly that their behaviour will not be tolerated (sorry Ruwan!) and will be punished severely. But then this has been understood and discussed to death by many before and nothing changes. (Awaits hang em high, Daily Mail, lack of compassion comments!!! ) It's not a case of lack of compassion, etc, but what you are describing is a human trait that has been with us since records began. There have always been rogues.
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Jun 12 2014, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 12 2014, 03:44 PM) It's not a case of lack of compassion, etc, but what you are describing is a human trait that has been with us since records began. There have always been rogues. Yes, but they don't use the red hot poker any more. There is possibly a happy medium.
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Jun 12 2014, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Jun 12 2014, 05:31 PM) and the victim £suffers£ with increased premiums for many years to come. We all suffer increased insurance prices because of these scum. we need a stricter regime with strong custodial sentences to deal with this!
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Jun 12 2014, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 12 2014, 07:50 PM) Sorry, but the bleeding heart liberal brigade would never agree to that. From the standpoint of a statistical analysis of the violence as a whole, in tandem with, and related to, a psyco-chemical and, broadly speaking, a behavioural analysis, there is just one inevitable conclusion...
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Jun 12 2014, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 12 2014, 09:13 PM) The press report suggests the magistrates were attempting to show how tough they are and failing miserably. In effect, the offender was showing his contempt for the court, so instead of some light hearted banter, he should have been made answer that charge and well. Surely it must be obvious to those responsible for the criminal justice system that the population see they are failing. The prime purpose of punishment is to secure retribution (recompense) for the wrong the offender committed against us all. Failing to do that, the judiciary are holding us in contempt!!
Prison isn't the only option, there are many more probably even more effective punishments, the pillory or the stocks for instance, but the apologists don't like humiliation - why not? Probably for the same reason as anyone doesn't!
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Jun 12 2014, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE However, he looked incredulous when they also ordered him to undertake 50 hours unpaid community work... No doubt he'll join the others on Community Payback doing maintenance work at the allotments in Wash Common. Lucky, lucky bar-steward.
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