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post Jun 17 2017, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 17 2017, 10:14 PM) *
Yeah, but I wouldn't be seen dead in a Ford, don't drink coffee and McDonalds smell puts me off. Globalisation doesn't worry me, indeed it solves the only worry I've ever had when voting leave. That is the UK no longer has the effective entrepreneurial and managerial skills for us to survive on our own - as you so amply demonstrate.

Then Jeremie's in trouble, he'll have no one to fleece.
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post Jun 17 2017, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 17 2017, 10:32 PM) *
No, it doesn't. It allows for 'fair wear and tear' and there is an independent arbitration service available if the outgoing tenants disagree. You seem unable to grasp that tenants rights have come on recently, I can't even turn of the Lecky and gas if I don't​ like what they put in the window box.


OK. yes I'm willing to accept that. However, it will be worth waiting to see what actual effect this has in practice, hopefully good. I must admit though, experience with small letting agents in west London still worries me, but that may well be an issue with enforcement.


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post Jun 17 2017, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 17 2017, 10:54 PM) *
OK. yes I'm willing to accept that. However, it will be worth waiting to see what actual effect this has in practice, hopefully good. I must admit though, experience with small letting agents in west London still worries me, but that may well be an issue with enforcement.

Not asking you to accept it, it's the law and it's there for the benefit of the tenants, the landlord far as I can see, derives no benefit at all from it. Unless you count knowing where they stand. But, if you go down the cheapo back Street option then you will of necessity be less protected. You only need to look at what went on in Slough with people housing workers in sheds in back gardens to realise there are landlords and there are landlords. ☺️ Gnite johnboy.
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post Jun 18 2017, 05:42 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 17 2017, 11:07 PM) *
Not asking you to accept it, it's the law and it's there for the benefit of the tenants, the landlord far as I can see, derives no benefit at all from it. Unless you count knowing where they stand. But, if you go down the cheapo back Street option then you will of necessity be less protected. You only need to look at what went on in Slough with people housing workers in sheds in back sadly not only in Slough gardens to realise there are landlords and there are landlords. ☺️ Gnite johnboy.


I meant I was agreeing with you pointing out that I wasn't au fait with latest legislation. So, yes, you are right if the legislation is followed it does protect the tenant. That leaves the 'back street' option which seems more prevalent than ever. The only way to prevent that and inevitably it affects the poorer and more vulnerable end of the market would be to make the new legislation compulsory by enforcement. That is the issue with sheds in gardens; which is still going on and not only in Slough. Again, it's the poor and disadvantaged being exploited. In this case, the planning rules, reasonably straightforward ways of detection are all available but simply lay unused because the Local Authorities responsible cannot afford to employ resource to do the job. That's actually the nub of the present crisis.


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post Jun 18 2017, 05:44 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 17 2017, 10:35 PM) *
Then Jeremie's in trouble, he'll have no one to fleece.


I doubt he would disagree. Remember, he's the Leader, not the party. That's the trouble with Labour, it actually listens to the masses it tries to represent. Some advice dear Theresa might well have heeded eh?


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post Jun 18 2017, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 18 2017, 06:44 AM) *
I doubt he would disagree. Remember, he's the Leader, not the party. That's the trouble with Labour, it actually listens to the masses it tries to represent. Some advice dear Theresa might well have heeded eh?




Quot homines tot sententiae as they say in the popular taverns . Guess Saint Theresa of Wokingham doesn't frequent to many ale houses . More the pity .


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post Jun 18 2017, 01:58 PM
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But,. Malum consilium quod mutari non potest 😎
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post Jun 18 2017, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 18 2017, 02:58 PM) *
But,. Malum consilium quod mutari non potest 😎



Yet another good reason not to make plans . Least not ones that one neither has to justify nor deliver .


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post Jun 18 2017, 04:00 PM
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Latin is a language
Dead as dead can be
First it killed the Romans
Now it's killing me.
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post Jun 18 2017, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 18 2017, 04:16 PM) *
Yet another good reason not to make plans . Least not ones that one neither has to justify nor deliver .

Like Jeremy??
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post Jun 18 2017, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 18 2017, 12:41 PM) *
Quot homines tot sententiae as they say in the popular taverns . Guess Saint Theresa of Wokingham doesn't frequent to many ale houses . More the pity .

When the country's opinion was that she should stay PM why go to the ale House?
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post Jun 19 2017, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Jun 18 2017, 05:00 PM) *
Latin is a language
Dead as dead can be
First it killed the Romans
Now it's killing me.



Fast forward 2,000 years and one wonders if English will be taught as a " classic language " in the schools of the day . Never quite understood it's purpose other than to perpetuate the elitist myth and justify the sadistic approach of the respective tutor .


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post Jun 19 2017, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 19 2017, 09:06 AM) *
Fast forward 2,000 years and one wonders if English will be taught as a " classic language " in the schools of the day . Never quite understood it's purpose other than to perpetuate the elitist myth and justify the sadistic approach of the respective tutor .


Very good point! Arguably a good example of how our education system has contributed to our national decline. It's also ironic that defenders of Latin studies often claim that it assists with learning other, modern languages, given our international reputation as poor linguists!


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post Jun 19 2017, 03:56 PM
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Knowing Latin can improve your foreign language vocabulary. Much of the commonly spoken Romanic languages like Spanish, French, and Italian derived from Vulgar Latin. You’ll be surprised by the number of Romanic words that are pretty much the same as their Latin counterparts.
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post Jun 19 2017, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 19 2017, 04:56 PM) *
Knowing Latin can improve your foreign language vocabulary. Much of the commonly spoken Romanic languages like Spanish, French, and Italian derived from Vulgar Latin. You’ll be surprised by the number of Romanic words that are pretty much the same as their Latin counterparts.


Yes, that's the theory....presumably we in GB are the exception proving the rule?


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post Jun 19 2017, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 19 2017, 05:33 PM) *
Yes, that's the theory....presumably we in GB are the exception proving the rule?

Not really, lots of people speak other languages, I for instance speak a little French, my friend is fluent in Italian and another is fully fluent in Spanish, so much so that she is now teaching in a Spanish school. If people can't be arsed that's down to them really.
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post Jun 19 2017, 07:05 PM
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Dos cervezas por favor!
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post Jun 19 2017, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 19 2017, 08:05 PM) *
Dos cervezas por favor!

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post Jun 19 2017, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 19 2017, 08:05 PM) *
Dos cervezas por favor!



One can always rely on the Brits to solve everything over a pint . Not to difficult to get by with a limited grasp of what Johnny foreigner is trying to relay .
My son in law hails from a place called Falkirk and I have more chance of understanding a Mongolian troglodyte with a lisp .


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post Jun 19 2017, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 19 2017, 06:14 PM) *
Not really, lots of people speak other languages, I for instance speak a little French, my friend is fluent in Italian and another is fully fluent in Spanish, so much so that she is now teaching in a Spanish school. If people can't be arsed that's down to them really.


Very true. Presumably the self same people who voted Brexit on the basis that we'd be better off trading with the rest of the World.


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