No I was just suggesting the correct name for the valve in your cold water tank that stops it overflowing.

Is it a ball valve or a float valve we need at our ports to regulate immigration?

Or have I lost the plot here??

That's a good point. Perhaps we should start at home in limiting migration and we should not allow anyone to move more than 50 miles from where they were born? This is what it really boils down to and if some areas are supposedly over populated that's the kind of legislation we should be bringing in. This would be easy to do if the new ID Card scheme were made mandatory. For this to work it would also be necessary to keep your papers, sorry, ID card on you at all times.

I wonder how many current residents of Newbury we would be sending "back to where they came from"?

'For example, I suspect South East England is a lot more densely populated than Britain'

It certainly is, but it always surprises me how easy it is to get away from people here in West Berkshire. Go for a long in walk in our glorious countryside and you'll meet very few people - at this time of the year, hardly anyone.

Re. immigration - get used to it, you ain't seen nothing yet. It's an inevitable consequence of globalisation, a phenomenon we Brits started way back in the 16th Century. And with one in three of the population already over 50 we're going to need all the paid help we can get.

I tried to start a serious debate on this topic but as usual it has been hijacked. When we have 120 million residents (80 million of which wil be crammed into a small part of the Country) I hope you will be happy. So you are pro immigration and want a free for all and I want to limit and control numbers. As far as I can see I have put forward an argument for limited migration and you have not managed to put up a defence for a free for all. So you get silly with comments like this. Quite sad really.

The trouble is, the paid helpers get old to, so do we just keep getting more (as the average age of the population increases)? The argument about needing younger, able bodied tax payers, seems like a too-short a term fix for me.

It's not a silly comment, it's the logical progression of your argument if we are to limit overcrowding in certain areas of the UK, stop people from moving into Newbury be they from Norfolk or Nairobi. I've explained why we need immigration in this country if nothing else to keep the NHS and Social Services going. You've chosen to ignore this.

What's silly is the projection of "120 million residents" in the UK. Who's figures are these, who's predicted this? To me this seems like another of the fallacies like "we're the most densely populated country in Europe" one that the right wing trot out to support their flimsy argument.

No wonder you're upset, your debate has been "hijacked" by people who know the facts!

If thats your point of view then fair enough. we live in a democracy the last time I checked so I believe in freedom of speech. I'll just agree to disagree. p.s. I don't lke being labelled as right wing just because I have different views on this topic than you. By that reasoning you must be part of the 'loony left'

As you have chosen to ignore my point regards the affect immigration has on some of the countries these skilled, hard working and fit people leave.

Yes if I'm labelling you as Right Wing it would be fair to call me Left Wing.

Not sure about the "loony" though, unless you think Right Wing in itself is an insult.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8385069.stm

Whats the betting the 400,000 are invited to Britain?
And see what happens when the public are 'trusted' in a referendum?

Now how do go about claiming asylum in Switzerland....

What a daft comment!

Around 23% of the population are immigrants mind, so it can't be that hard.

Would that be our fathers in the European Union? We only got Free Speech legislation about 10 years ago passed down and watered down by Parliament on the way. Gosh Darn (as the swear-bot made d@mn look a lot worse as ****) those foreigners! Coming over here and enshrining freedom of speech for all of us!!

Whilst we're inventing things to worry about and scaremongering why not add that they'll no doubt all be carrying knives too?

What's the betting the incidents of getting stones out of horses hooves and opening corked bottles will go through the roof.

No it was mine and others fathers who gave their lives to keep to keep this Country free.

And what do you mean by "free"?

Free from tyranny, which is different from free to do, or say, as one wishes.

I always thought why our government do not stop issuing work visas and have seen a BBC programme which shows accepting the visa application for all of them whoever applies. I think it may be a better idea for the Uk embassy in their respective countries to keep strict filters accordingly and limit the flow at the first instance.