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GMR
post Feb 20 2015, 05:44 PM
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WBC parking con.

Last year WBC put up signs in Old Bath Road (and in other areas) stating that the free parking – that was – will now be charged. This charging will be by phone (only). They put up signs last year (2014) stating "WARNING On-street charging in operation wef ["With Effect From"] Monday 28 July Pay by phone only". Notice no year date on that sign! There are reasons for this.

After that date – last year (28 July 2014) – charges were put into operation, and people started paying. All fine so far.

Some of you may have noticed that 2014 has gone, but not those signs. Therefore, people are parking there – from outside Newbury – and upon seeing those signs, and reading them as those charges will take effect from 28 July (of this year, as there are no year dates on those signs). I have reported this to WBC and the Traffic wardens that they are misleading, and because of this people will park there without paying (under the belief that they are free to park there until Monday July 28th). Every traffic warden I have spoken to knew this, but I got the impression they are still there to mislead; for the purpose to help increase WBA parking revenue. As I said to two of the Traffic Wardens, "Your job seems to be there to uphold the rules and make sure payment is received to WBC, while WBC's objective is to deceive the honest and hardworking driver for their own profit benefits". They just smiled.

I often go past those signs, and the cars that are parked there, and you are still seeing notices on certain cars for failing to pay. A perfect con.




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post Feb 20 2015, 06:34 PM
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Perhaps they are trying out a new joke 'How many traffic wardens does it take to remove an out of date sign? Answer 'none because its more than my jobs worth'.
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post Feb 20 2015, 06:49 PM
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OK, being generous, one could say that a hard pressed staff have accidentally overlooked this. So is it really cynical to suggest it's being left because they are on the make. However, given the 'oversights' that keep happening in the department responsible, even those who aren't so jaundiced amongst us would be justified in asking what on earth is going on. It would certainly be worth sending an email to your local WBC Councillor and asking. The Councillor could then ask a WBC manager...if he can find one.



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post Feb 20 2015, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 20 2015, 06:49 PM) *
OK, being generous, one could say that a hard pressed staff have accidentally overlooked this. So is it really cynical to suggest it's being left because they are on the make. However, given the 'oversights' that keep happening in the department responsible, even those who aren't so jaundiced amongst us would be justified in asking what on earth is going on. It would certainly be worth sending an email to your local WBC Councillor and asking. The Councillor could then ask a WBC manager...if he can find one.





That would be a fair comment, only that it was reported to the Wardens and WBC last year. The truth of the matter is that they were left there to generate more money unfairly.

I believe that they made quite a bit of money through this misinformation.

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post Feb 20 2015, 08:21 PM
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more money for Club funds
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post Feb 20 2015, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (MontyPython @ Feb 20 2015, 08:21 PM) *
more money for Club funds





Throughout the country councils are finding new ways to boost their profits; that is by hook or by crook. And the best way is through parking charges. We've already seen making the parking bays smaller.

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post Feb 20 2015, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Feb 20 2015, 09:24 PM) *
We've already seen making the parking bays smaller.

I think it's just that they didn't make them bigger!
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post Feb 21 2015, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 20 2015, 06:49 PM) *
OK, being generous, one could say that a hard pressed staff have accidentally overlooked this. So is it really cynical to suggest it's being left because they are on the make. However, given the 'oversights' that keep happening in the department responsible, even those who aren't so jaundiced amongst us would be justified in asking what on earth is going on. It would certainly be worth sending an email to your local WBC Councillor and asking. The Councillor could then ask a WBC manager...if he can find one.

It was obvious from the start. Stark incompetence.
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post Feb 21 2015, 07:57 AM
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Is GMR just stirring perhaps?

The yellow signs on Newtown Road and in Faraday Road certainly didn't have any dates on them last night.




I think they still serve a purpose as they are and remind people in the areas where there aren't ticket machines in place that they need to be aware. They should be kept in place.
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Pay by phone only
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post Feb 21 2015, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Feb 21 2015, 07:57 AM) *
Is GMR just stirring perhaps?


"Stirring" what up? Are you saying that informing the public of WBC blatant abuse of a misleading sign to get more revenue is justified and shouldn't be brought to the attention of the public? After all this isn't the first time that WBC have been pulled up about other irregularities.




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The yellow signs on Newtown Road and in Faraday Road certainly didn't have any dates on them last night. I think they still serve a purpose as they are and remind people in the areas where there aren't ticket machines in place that they need to be aware. They should be kept in place.

WARNING On-street charging in operation Pay by phone only


And who is arguing with that? I totally agree such signs should be up to help guide the public in what they are expected to do or pay. And what you highlighted is totally correct (highlighted in bold). But that is not what I was talking about here. I was talking about (and showed photos to highlight this) of signs giving a date that gives the impression that the charges won't be enforce until after 28 July of this year. There was no year date on those signs, and the reason for this is to give false sense that one can park there free, and then when they do they will be ticketed/ fined.

The pictures were taken yesterday (20th Feb/ Friday).



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post Feb 21 2015, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 20 2015, 09:52 PM) *
I think it's just that they didn't make them bigger!





And why didn't they make them bigger? It is all about making WBC more money so that they can pay their top Executives even more bonuses and wages.
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post Feb 21 2015, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Feb 21 2015, 09:21 AM) *
so that they can pay their top Executives even more bones and wages.

Top dogs, maybe? wink.gif

How long ago was that photo taken, and have you checked that the date is still on there today? Spartacus says in his post that the dates have been removed from the signs at other parking sites.
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post Feb 21 2015, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 21 2015, 09:25 AM) *
Top dogs, maybe? wink.gif How long ago was that photo taken, and have you checked that the date is still on there today?


Exactly, that is what they think they are. wink.gif

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post Feb 21 2015, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Feb 21 2015, 09:27 AM) *
Exactly, that is what they think they are. wink.gif

Hope they enjoy their bones, then.
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post Feb 21 2015, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 21 2015, 09:25 AM) *
How long ago was that photo taken, and have you checked that the date is still on there today? Spartacus says that the dates have been removed from other parking sites in his post.





The photos were taken yesterday at about 11.30ish (Friday 20th). Even if the signs are taken down today that doesn't change anything; they would have been up for over 7 months. Enough time to con people into thinking they could park there free and be caught out by the WBC's Traffic Wardens. Is WBC going to give those fines back?

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post Feb 21 2015, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Feb 21 2015, 09:30 AM) *
Is WBC going to give those fines back?


Computer says NO

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post Feb 21 2015, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Feb 21, 09:18 AM) *
The pictures were taken yesterday (20th Feb/ Friday).


QUOTE (GMR @ Feb 21, 09:30 AM) *
The photos were taken yesterday at about 11.30ish (Friday 20th).



yeah, yeah.. of course they were.....

yesterday you say...


But which YEAR yesterday? hmm?
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post Feb 21 2015, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Feb 21 2015, 10:02 AM) *
yeah yeah.. yesterday you say... But which YEAR yesterday? hmm?





I'll make it simple for you, unlike WBC who's only wish is to confuse and gain money in the process.

11.30ish pm. Friday 20th February 2015. wink.gif

Do you work for WBC by any chance? Let us say the "Sign, confusion and propaganda department"? laugh.gif







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post Feb 21 2015, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Feb 21 2015, 09:56 AM) *
Computer says NO





Spoken like a true WBC employee (?). They obviously would pay you well out of the money they gain out of their misleading sign initiative wink.gif And if they are not paying you then maybe you are expecting a cheque through the post?
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post Feb 21 2015, 11:13 AM
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That's not me btw... I don't have a dress that colour and I prefer a more subtle shade of lippy... wink.gif
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