Diane James leads UKIP Options

[Simon Kirby]

I get a bit tired of the "commie" jibes directed at me for being a Labour member and Corbyn supporter, not least because I have nothing but contempt for repressive totalitarian regiemes be they tin-pot parish councils or world super-powers, so I note with some ire that Diane James, the new leader of UKIP, is a self-declared admirer of the shirtless cavalier: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/18...-one-of-her-he/

[JeffG]

You don't have to be a Corbyn or even Labour supporter (I am neither) to be unsurprised by this, after Farage openly supported the arch-demon Donald Trump. I guess that party gets the leader it deserves. It's probably hyperbole to say she appears to be to the right of Genghis Khan.

Anyway, UKIP is finished now, and will, with luck, rapidly fade from the public consciousness.

[On the edge]

Yes, it's frankly amazing, coming from those that those who want us to keep 'nukes' because of their fear that Putin might invade!

I'm far from convinced that UKIP is finished; I'd argue that it's more likely to become the right wing version of the LibDims, particularly if the mainstream parties fail to learn the lessons.

[Turin Machine]

I get a bit tired of the "commie" jibes directed at me for being a Labour member and Corbyn supporter, not least because I have nothing but contempt for repressive totalitarian regiemes be they tin-pot parish councils or world super-powers, so I note with some ire that Diane James, the new leader of UKIP, is a self-declared admirer of the shirtless cavalier: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/18...-one-of-her-he/

But it's quite alright to label others as "swivel eyed loons" though? Reap what you sow old boy, reap what you sow.

[JeffG]

But it's quite alright to label others as "swivel eyed loons" though? Reap what you sow old boy, reap what you sow.

Come on - he was just using the polite version!

[GMR]

You don't have to be a Corbyn or even Labour supporter (I am neither) to be unsurprised by this, after Farage openly supported the arch-demon Donald Trump. I guess that party gets the leader it deserves. It's probably hyperbole to say she appears to be to the right of Genghis Khan. Anyway, UKIP is finished now, and will, with luck, rapidly fade from the public consciousness.

Actually he never said he supported Trump, he actually said that he was against Clinton (which most Americans are). It will go down to the best of two evils. I also noticed that the gap between Clinton and Trump has narrowed.

[GMR]

Yes, it's frankly amazing, coming from those that those who want us to keep 'nukes' because of their fear that Putin might invade!

Keeping nukes is only part of the Russian equation.

I'm far from convinced that UKIP is finished; I'd argue that it's more likely to become the right wing version of the LibDims, particularly if the mainstream parties fail to learn the lessons.

Whether UK survives or not will depend on whether James starts making friends with both fractions of the party. She is a good speaker, but she does need the total support from all the party. She also needs to remove the nutters in her party.

[GMR]

I get a bit tired of the "commie" jibes directed at me for being a Labour member and Corbyn supporter, not least because I have nothing but contempt for repressive totalitarian regiemes be they tin-pot parish councils or world super-powers, so I note with some ire that Diane James, the new leader of UKIP, is a self-declared admirer of the shirtless cavalier: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/18...-one-of-her-he/

That was a stupid comment from James. If she wants to win then she must watch what she says. I thought that Suzanne Evans would have made a better leader.

[On the edge]

Keeping nukes is only part of the Russian equation.





Whether UK survives or not will depend on whether James starts making friends with both fractions of the party. She is a good speaker, but she does need the total support from all the party. She also needs to remove the nutters in her party.

From past threads, the percieved threat from Russia seems to constitute the biggest worry!

I certainly agree about the new UKIP leader, who had the self same issue as the Labour leader which is as you say; needing total support and removing the nutters. In his case of course, many of those nutters are on the benches behind him.

[GMR]

From past threads, the percieved threat from Russia seems to constitute the biggest worry!

Yes, but they are not the brightest sparks on here.

I certainly agree about the new UKIP leader, who had the self same issue as the Labour leader which is as you say; needing total support and removing the nutters. In his case of course, many of those nutters are on the benches behind him.

I wouldn't say that; I think the nutter is Corbyn, or at least the biggest nutter. As for the rest; they are no different to any other MP nutter.

[JeffG]

Actually he never said he supported Trump,

He shared a platform with Trump at a rally, and spoke to Trump's rabble. If you don't agree that is endorsing Trump, then fine.

[GMR]

He shared a platform with Trump at a rally, and spoke to Trump's rabble. If you don't agree that is endorsing Trump, then fine.

I am just saying that he didn't verbally endorse him. What we do know is that he and most Americans don't like Clinton; in other words you are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[On the edge]

I don't know why people are so worried about leaders of parties they don't really support. Good opposition is supposed to make good government. However, many seem to think that 'good opposition' means separate clone. Classically, New Labour and the LibDems being Tory Lite or Diet Tory! I suppose UKZIP will try and become Tory Extra. However, Classic Tory doesn't need opposition, it s inbuilt.

[je suis Charlie]

Ha! Luv it.

[Biker1]

Yes, but they are not the brightest sparks on here.

GMR please don't go down the newres route and insult those who don't have the same views / opinions as yourself.
You're better than that!
Thanks.

[Andy Capp]

GMR please don't go down the newres route and insult those who don't have the same views / opinions as yourself.
You're better than that!
Thanks.

I must read a different GMR than you! 😋

[Andy Capp]

I don't know why people are so worried about leaders of parties they don't really support. Good opposition is supposed to make good government. However, many seem to think that 'good opposition' means separate clone. Classically, New Labour and the LibDems being Tory Lite or Diet Tory! I suppose UKZIP will try and become Tory Extra. However, Classic Tory doesn't need opposition, it s inbuilt.

Unless the opposition can pose an electoral threat, then they are broadly ineffectual.

[On the edge]

Unless the opposit can pose an electoral threat, then they are broadly ineffectual.

Yes, so in our situation, the Givernment's critics from its own ranks are the best opposition. I suspect that's really where UKIP will see its salvation, going home to the Tories. Similarly, but after a good few pennies have dropped, LibDem back to Labour.

[GMR]

GMR please don't go down the newres route and insult those who don't have the same views / opinions as yourself. You're better than that! Thanks.

I had to go back and read what I said, it was so long ago I had forgotten.

[GMR]

I must read a different GMR than you! 😋

Of course you read a different person... people always do when they don't agree. People see what they want to see so that they can fool themselves.