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Jayjay
post Jun 18 2011, 08:43 AM
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With the news that we all have to use slop pails, I calculated how much I would have put in this week. 1 chicken carcass, 1" square if cheese that had started to go mouldy and 1/2 plate of pasta (didn't like he sauce). Bread went to the ducks/birds, egg shells prevented the slugs, tea bags and veg peelings went in the compost bin.
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post Jun 18 2011, 10:21 AM
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I try not to waste food.... and very rarely do.
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Andy Capp
post Jun 18 2011, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Jun 18 2011, 09:43 AM) *
Bread went to the ducks/birds, egg shells prevented the slugs, tea bags and veg peelings went in the compost bin.

While you mean well, one should not feed birds bread; especially in the spring/summer.
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post Jun 18 2011, 10:42 AM
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http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/helpingbirds/feeding/faqs.aspx

The RSPB don't seem to mind.
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post Jun 18 2011, 10:44 AM
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I waste very little, years of working in catering have taught me how to make the most out of everything. I am not a fussy eater fortunatly which really helps also.
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post Jun 18 2011, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 18 2011, 11:42 AM) *

http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/helpingbirds...whentofeed.aspx

"Avoid using peanuts, fat and bread at this time (spring and summer), since these can be harmful if adult birds feed them to their nestlings."

Generally speaking, processed food like bread is not advisable for bird feed; it is too rich in preservatives, salt, etc... although when food is scarce it might be the only option for some. Feeding when there is a rich source of food (like in the summer), is not advisable because it can make birds vulnerable to predators like birds of prey (whom you should never feed).
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post Jun 18 2011, 01:16 PM
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Ah, I read the bit about breadcrumbs and jumped to my own conclusion. Good advice Andy.
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post Jun 18 2011, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 18 2011, 12:05 PM) *
http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/helpingbirds...whentofeed.aspx

"Avoid using peanuts, fat and bread at this time (spring and summer), since these can be harmful if adult birds feed them to their nestlings."

Generally speaking, processed food like bread is not advisable for bird feed; it is too rich in preservatives, salt, etc... although when food is scarce it might be the only option for some. Feeding when there is a rich source of food (like in the summer), is not advisable because it can make birds vulnerable to predators like birds of prey (whom you should never feed).


The bread is home made and not much go the animals as it is too delicious, what does is crumbed. We give special robin and blackbird food as well as wild bird seed. We do take the peanuts away in the nesting season and reinstate during the Autumn. Unsure if we should, but suet is all year round. Provide soft fruit and fresh water. Don't need to use pesticides as the hedgehog and duck deal with the slugs and the birds reward us by clearing up any greenfly.
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post Sep 18 2011, 05:12 PM
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I don't understand.
What is a slop pail and why would you want one?

On the other side. I am rather wasteful and always seem to cook twice what I actually eat.
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post Sep 18 2011, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (MoonPhoenix @ Sep 18 2011, 06:12 PM) *
I don't understand.
What is a slop pail and why would you want one?


Many years ago when I lived in central London the restaurants used to put out waste food in a slop bin when they closed for the night, and about 5am a team in a truck came round and emptied them - to feed pigs I believe. Rgds
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post Sep 18 2011, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (MoonPhoenix @ Sep 18 2011, 06:12 PM) *
I don't understand.
What is a slop pail and why would you want one?

On the other side. I am rather wasteful and always seem to cook twice what I actually eat.


You have a lidded container on your kitchen counter top. You put a biodegradable liner inside then any waste food goes into the container. When this is full you empty it into a larger container which sits near your wheelie bin. Have to be really careful with the liner as it starts to break down when wet and you end up with rotten food all over your slippers. As to why anyone would want one - no one does, but many council say you must. The slop cannot be fed to pigs anymore in case anything unsuitable gets into the food chain. When I used them it was taken away and put into the furnace at the local hospital to provide heating.
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post Sep 18 2011, 06:29 PM
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Interesting thought... For thousands of years pigs have eaten all sorts of junk food. For hundreds of years they have been fed the slops of human catering excess. Now they can't eat that, so have prepared foods made in factories.

Nearly all of what they had been fed was what we had prepared for human consumption, so whatever the nasty stuff is supposed to be was in the food chain already (and continues to be so).

So now we have to 'recycle' waste food into some random process, while making replacement foods for the previous consumer.

I'm sure there is a science to this, but it sounds muddled thinking to me.....
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post Sep 18 2011, 06:56 PM
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Interesting one this. We survived the war eating anything as did the pigs and apparently were never more healthy. Then, right up 'till the abolition of retail price maintenance we had a grocer on every street corner who sold small quantities as needed. Price maintenance goes and US style competition cuts in - only 'the big chains' are trusted to feed us. So lots and lots of petty and unnecessary regulations - which simply have the effect of ensuring only fast turnover can cope. Now there is an oligopoly (in reality a monoploy) its more cost effective NOT to have sell by dates etc. Perhaps one becomes cynical with age....


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post Sep 18 2011, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 18 2011, 07:56 PM) *
Interesting one this. We survived the war eating anything as did the pigs and apparently were never more healthy. Then, right up 'till the abolition of retail price maintenance we had a grocer on every street corner who sold small quantities as needed. Price maintenance goes and US style competition cuts in - only 'the big chains' are trusted to feed us. So lots and lots of petty and unnecessary regulations - which simply have the effect of ensuring only fast turnover can cope. Now there is an oligopoly (in reality a monoploy) its more cost effective NOT to have sell by dates etc. Perhaps one becomes cynical with age....


Quite correct On the edge.....only talking to somewhat younger people earlier this week I don't think its only age has anything to do with being cynical...


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post Sep 19 2011, 09:50 AM
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It may be some time before it happens but everyone will need to be more careful with food management as resources dwindle and world population rises. How many fields are now planted for fuel oil in preference to food.
Sounds like Jayjay has already got a regime that works for getting value for money with what he/she is buying.


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post Sep 19 2011, 10:49 AM
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I don't waste any food, because I eat everything in reach.

Not good for my weight but very good for the environment. I choose to take the self-sacrificing approach.
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post Sep 19 2011, 11:46 AM
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The OP said we were all to get slop pails. Why's that?


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post Sep 19 2011, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 19 2011, 12:46 PM) *
The OP said we were all to get slop pails. Why's that?

http://www.westberks.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=21430
though the OP would have been referring to the general Waste Review and Daily (Hate) Mail headlines at the time, rather than locally.
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post Sep 19 2011, 07:04 PM
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We waste very little, if we cook too much I have it for lunch the next day. The rest is composted or given to the birds.


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post Sep 19 2011, 10:02 PM
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Just get yourself a human dustbin...

or cook less.
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