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post Nov 29 2012, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (Amelie @ Nov 29 2012, 10:29 PM) *
He, or she, was, quite correctly, pointing out that what you said was 'irony' wasn't. Why do you get so spiteful when those better educated than you help you by showing you where you've gone wrong? Try not to feel so threatened.


'No its not' isn't exactly a helpful explanation. You criticise my lack of education. So I'm the spiteful one? laugh.gif


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post Nov 29 2012, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (Amelie @ Nov 29 2012, 10:29 PM) *
He, or she, was, quite correctly, pointing out that what you said was 'irony' wasn't. Why do you get so spiteful when those better educated than you help you by showing you where you've gone wrong? Try not to feel so threatened.

I disagree. If OTE didn't truly think the article was funny, then he was being ironic.

One type of irony is that you (sarcastically) suggest something but truly mean the opposite.

For example: TDAH is currently running an irony campaign regards the UKIP foster story.
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post Nov 29 2012, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 29 2012, 11:21 PM) *
I disagree. If OTE didn't truly think the article was funny, then he was being ironic.

One type of irony is that you (sarcastically) suggest something but truly mean the opposite.


Well I think 'on the edge' is a good bloke.
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post Dec 1 2012, 09:52 AM
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I asked a question of AH three days ago re half dead game birds. He has been lurking at the bottom of the page in the list of who is online all that time and has had plenty of time to answer. I need to fill my freezer and will not be going on a shoot till Jan so knowing the location would be a great help.
PS. once again, did you get the RSPA out to tend the birds?
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post Dec 2 2012, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Dec 1 2012, 09:52 AM) *
I asked a question of AH three days ago re half dead game birds. He has been lurking at the bottom of the page in the list of who is online all that time and has had plenty of time to answer. I need to fill my freezer and will not be going on a shoot till Jan so knowing the location would be a great help.
PS. once again, did you get the RSPA out to tend the birds?

If you knew anything about it, you would know that they don't last long - I'm guessing that winged they would last a day at most in this cold. There are enough things out here ready to eat them - not least our 'super rat' problem. Of course, they can also snack on all the starving birds that will soon stop being fed.
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post Dec 2 2012, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Dec 1 2012, 09:52 AM) *
I asked a question of AH three days ago re half dead game birds. He has been lurking at the bottom of the page in the list of who is online all that time and has had plenty of time to answer. I need to fill my freezer and will not be going on a shoot till Jan so knowing the location would be a great help.
PS. once again, did you get the RSPA out to tend the birds?

Do you actually enjoy killing things for fun?
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post Dec 2 2012, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Dec 2 2012, 10:29 AM) *
Do you actually enjoy killing things for fun?

It is difficult not to, isn't it, but I think 'he' said 'he' kills things to eat.
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post Dec 2 2012, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Dec 2 2012, 10:29 AM) *
Of course, they can also snack on all the starving birds that will soon stop being fed.

? Not sure where you are coming from here?

Who is stopping bird feeding (certainly not Mrs B!). Are you referring to the newly unemployed gamekeepers following a ban on game shooting?
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post Dec 2 2012, 06:17 PM
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Spartacus you miss the point as do all in favour if bloodsports.
It is the fact that the killing (or maiming) is the pleasurable part for you folks not the eating.
I don't "wail over the death of Mr. Pheasant". I have eaten pheasant and enjoyed it but I did not get any pleasure from killing it and excusing it as a "sport" as extolled in a full page in "Country Matters."
And it's not just pheasant that you folks get pleasure from blasting either is it?
Yes I agree that many animals are farmed in poor conditions but no-one gains pleasure from that and yes it should be stopped.
By the way your reference to those who oppose bloodsports are "tree huggers" I find biased and offensive but then the pro-bloodsport fraternity always resort to those measures.
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post Dec 2 2012, 07:16 PM
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Yes I do. I have held a shotgun licence since I was ten years old and that is sixty years ago. I do not think you know anything at all about about real country living. My guns have put many meals on mine and friends plates over the years. Why do you think we have gun-dogs with us on shoots. These dogs are trained to hunt down any winged (runners) that drop and then the birds are dispatched as quickly as possible. If you see the odd game-bird laying about how do you know how it met its end?

There is at least one other member on here who knows that I come from a fishing family that goes back to at least the 1670s and I have fished as an inshore and deep-sea fisherman in all of the worlds oceans. Hundreds of thousands of tons of fish that found its way onto peoples plates that gave them the protein that they needed cheaply, I suppose that is wrong also in your petty little mind? One of my daughters is a vet and cares for sick and wounded animals on a day to day basis both farmed and wild, and at the same time, been on many many shoots with me since she was a kid. She and I both know what country life is all about, you never will as long as you have a hole in ya @rse.

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post Dec 2 2012, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Dec 2 2012, 07:16 PM) *
Yes I do. I have held a shotgun licence since I was ten years old and that is sixty years ago. I do not think you know anything at all about about real country living. My guns have put many meals on mine and friends plates over the years. Why do you think we have gun-dogs with us on shoots. These dogs are trained to hunt down any winged (runners) that drop and then the birds are dispatched as quickly as possible. If you see the odd game-bird laying about how do you know how it met its end?

There is at least one other member on here who knows that I come from a fishing family that goes back to at least the 1670s and I have fished as an inshore and deep-sea fisherman in all of the worlds oceans. Hundreds of thousands of tons of fish that found its way onto peoples plates that gave them the protein that they needed cheaply, I suppose that is wrong also in your petty little mind? One of my daughters is a vet and cares for sick and wounded animals on a day to day basis both farmed and wild, and at the same time, been on many many shoots with me since she was a kid. She and I both know what country life is all about, you never will as long as you have a hole in ya @rse.

If I shot a lamb with a gun - to eat - I'd be arrested.
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post Dec 2 2012, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Dec 2 2012, 07:20 PM) *
If I shot a lamb with a gun - to eat - I'd be arrested.


Do you have any idea about the meat industry at all? Many thousands of lambs, beef cattle and Pigs are shot daily with a gun. If I was you I would find out a bit more of how meat ends up on peoples plates before you spout such tosh.
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post Dec 2 2012, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Dec 2 2012, 07:34 PM) *
Do you have any idea about the meat industry at all? Many thousands of lambs, beef cattle and Pigs are shot daily with a gun. If I was you I would find out a bit more of how meat ends up on peoples plates before you spout such tosh.

I know all about the meat industry thanks.

It still does not alter that fact that if I shot a lamb with a gun I'd be arrested. Or if I drowned a cat.
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post Dec 2 2012, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Dec 2 2012, 07:34 PM) *
Do you have any idea about the meat industry at all? Many thousands of lambs, beef cattle and Pigs are shot daily with a gun. If I was you I would find out a bit more of how meat ends up on peoples plates before you spout such tosh.


I suspect must people here have absolutely no objection to anyone with the capability and capacity taking food for themselves and family. The biggest objection is to those who do this simply for sport - that, just as much as bull baiting, or **** fighting is now unacceptable.


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post Dec 2 2012, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Dec 2 2012, 07:44 PM) *
I know all about the meat industry thanks.
Methinks not.

It still does not alter that fact that if I shot a lamb with a gun I'd be arrested. Or if I drowned a cat.


And so you should be. But you would not be if you shot one in the correct manner, with the correct accreditation, and the right sort of gun.

The sort of shooting I do, I have all three.
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post Dec 2 2012, 08:22 PM
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I quite agree in that meat eaters who complain of people who hunt, kill and eat their food are hypocrites. I'm one.
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post Dec 2 2012, 08:25 PM
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Lets say that post apocalypse some of you ended up thrust together out of necessity for protection (safer in a herd) Who would you rather be with, someone like me who can live of the land, knows how to make traps to trap any sort of creature for food. That can make fish traps both for salt and fresh with no tools just hands. Or would you rather be with someone who could paint your face. Myself I would rather be with Bear Grylls than a make up artist.
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post Dec 2 2012, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Dec 2 2012, 08:25 PM) *
Myself I would rather be with Bear Grylls than a make up artist.


Best way to survive
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post Dec 2 2012, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (FactFile @ Dec 2 2012, 08:58 PM) *


The link is crap just like the paper it was supposed to link to.

They are making a show. He is accompanied by a whole crew of people. Do you think they all live on snakes and the like. He even shows you how the scenes are put together in some shows. I suppose you thought he went out with a camcorder and actually lived like it.
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post Dec 2 2012, 09:12 PM
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Well done factfile, neat bit of editing to the Daily Wail.
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