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> EU Referendum, Which way will Benyon vote???
What will Richard Benyon do?
Will he vote for a referendum or against?
For a referendum as it was a Tory pledge [ 2 ] ** [18.18%]
Against, because Dave says so [ 9 ] ** [81.82%]
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Richard Garvie
post Oct 22 2011, 05:59 PM
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I think we should have a referendum. I believe the choice of the people will be to remain in Europe and nothing will change, but if we have been promised a referendum, we should be entitled to one.

We should be in Europe leading from the front, as standing back and allowing it to crumble is obviously not working for us or the economy.
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:06 PM
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Not really Newbury News this, is it?
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Richard Garvie
post Oct 22 2011, 06:10 PM
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Is Richard Benyon not our MP? I'd personally love to know which way he will vote, especially given pledges made in the election campaign.
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 22 2011, 07:10 PM) *
Is Richard Benyon not our MP? I'd personally love to know which way he will vote, especially given pledges made in the election campaign.
He'll probably vote the same as the majority of your party I would imagine on this national issue.

Back to local topics, where's this referendum on a mayor for West Berkshire you promised by September this year?
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Richard Garvie
post Oct 22 2011, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 22 2011, 07:12 PM) *
He'll probably vote the same as the majority of your party I would imagine on this national issue.

Back to local topics, where's this referendum on a mayor for West Berkshire you promised by September this year?


Body swerve!!! The Labour position on an EU referendum has always been consistant, but I believe we should have a referendum. The fact is the Tories promised a referendum... When are we having it? If Mr benyon votes against it, he has broken a personal pledge that HE made at the general election.

As for any other issues that you wish to discuss, please feel free to start another thread.
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 22 2011, 07:17 PM) *
Body swerve!!! The Labour position on an EU referendum has always been consistant, but I believe we should have a referendum. The fact is the Tories promised a referendum... When are we having it? If Mr benyon votes against it, he has broken a personal pledge that HE made at the general election.

As for any other issues that you wish to discuss, please feel free to start another thread.
The Labour position on an EU referendum has changed over the years.

Back to local issues, where's the referendum on a mayor for West Berkshire Labour promised by September this year?
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 22 2011, 07:18 PM) *
The Labour position on an EU referendum has change over the years.

Back to local issues, where's the referendum on a mayor for West Berkshire you promised by September this year?


I told you, start another thread. What gives you the right to ask questions anyway, you never ask questions posed to you, you still haven't said whether you think it's right that a paid council employee in a position of trust engages in political debate and / or discussion? That's a pretty heavy conflict of interest, especially as there is a potential for abuse of position to benefit a political party of your choosing if you wished with no safeguards in place to prevent that from happening. What's to say you don't change documents on the website to flatter the Tories and discriminate against other parties?

As you have access to multiple council social media accounts, could you use that to further your political arguments? What safeguards are in place to prevent that from happening? If there is no safeguards to prevent against it, surely you shouldn't be in position?
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 22 2011, 07:25 PM) *
I told you, start another thread. What gives you the right to ask questions anyway, you never ask questions posed to you, you still haven't said whether you think it's right that a paid council employee in a position of trust engages in political debate and / or discussion? That's a pretty heavy conflict of interest, especially as there is a potential for abuse of position to benefit a political party of your choosing if you wished with no safeguards in place to prevent that from happening. What's to say you don't change documents on the website to flatter the Tories and discriminate against other parties?

As you have access to multiple council social media accounts, could you use that to further your political arguments? What safeguards are in place to prevent that from happening? If there is no safeguards to prevent against it, surely you shouldn't be in position?
I've never said where I'm employed Richard. On the subject you raise of public sector workers expressing their opinions however, I though the Labour Party were generally in favour of this.

Anyway, back to the subject of referenda that you raised, where's the referendum on a mayor for West Berkshire Labour promised by September this year?
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:38 PM
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Whatever he thinks, Ministers are usually the first to defy a three-line whip.


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post Oct 22 2011, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 22 2011, 07:36 PM) *
I've never said where I'm employed Richard. On the subject you raise of public sector workers expressing their opinions however, I though the Labour Party were generally in favour of this.

Anyway, back to the subject of referenda that you raised, where's the referendum on a mayor for West Berkshire Labour promised by September this year?


Come on Phil, answer the questions. I've said that if you start another thread about the mayor subject, I will answer the questions but that means you can't disrupt this one so you are not interested. As I said before, you still need to answer many questions that have been asked of you on various threads.
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 22 2011, 07:39 PM) *
Come on Phil, answer the questions. I've said that if you start another thread about the mayor subject, I will answer the questions but that means you can't disrupt this one so you are not interested. As I said before, you still need to answer many questions that have been asked of you on various threads.
I think we can all infer from your reaction that the people of West Berkshire aren't going to see the referendum on a mayor for West Berkshire you promised by September this year.
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 22 2011, 07:44 PM) *
I think we can all infer from your reaction that the people of West Berkshire aren't going to see the referendum on a mayor for West Berkshire you promised by September this year.


Not at all. I'm happy to answer the question, just ask it in a relevant thread and I will give you your answer.
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post Oct 22 2011, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 22 2011, 06:59 PM) *
I think we should have a referendum. I believe the choice of the people will be to remain in Europe and nothing will change, but if we have been promised a referendum, we should be entitled to one.

We should be in Europe leading from the front, as standing back and allowing it to crumble is obviously not working for us or the economy.


I think GB wants to remain in Europe but I don't thin GB wants to be part of the EU.

Their nanny state nonsense and ridiculous rules which are being accepted by a weak and "yes daddy" government here means that in about 10 years it will be illegal to do anything apart from get up, go to work, get home, pay taxes. You won't even be allowed to have a poo. Complete injustice. sad.gif

As for which way he'll vote, he'll vote for whatever makes him come across as good to his superiors.

I'll beat a hasty retreat now and watch people with beards arguing about politics. laugh.gif
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post Oct 22 2011, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Oct 22 2011, 08:06 PM) *
I think GB wants to remain in Europe but I don't thin GB wants to be part of the EU.
What does this mean?
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post Oct 22 2011, 07:18 PM
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Well being part of the European Union does not dictate whether a country is from Europe, does it not? Switzerland, for example. It's a country not a (in)continent.
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post Oct 22 2011, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Oct 22 2011, 08:18 PM) *
Well being part of the European Union does not dictate whether a country is from Europe, does it not? Switzerland, for example. It's a country not a (in)continent.
Surely we don't have any choice as to whether these islands are part of the continent of Europe?
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post Oct 22 2011, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 22 2011, 07:10 PM) *
Is Richard Benyon not our MP? I'd personally love to know which way he will vote, especially given pledges made in the election campaign.


He will ignore his electorate and vote as he is told by Dave of course what else would you expect of a politician. You seem a bit niave for a politician if you don't know the answer? rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 22 2011, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 22 2011, 08:22 PM) *
Surely we don't have any choice as to whether these islands are part of the continent of Europe?

Israel is European by choice it would seem, and Iceland isn't technically on a continental shelf but rather it's extruded directly from the mid-ocean ridge and could just as easily claim to be North American, so I guess the UK is free to choose which continent it wishes to be identified with.


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post Oct 22 2011, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Oct 22 2011, 08:06 PM) *
Their nanny state nonsense and ridiculous rules which are being accepted by a weak and "yes daddy" government here means that in about 10 years it will be illegal to do anything apart from get up, go to work, get home, pay taxes. You won't even be allowed to have a poo. Complete injustice. sad.gif

Allrighty, I'll bite: Can you actually name some European legislation that you find so objectionable?


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post Oct 22 2011, 07:32 PM
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You would expect him to deliver what he promised I suppose, isn't that what we were promised with all this "new politics" pledge? A bit like not hiding things like EU subsidies...
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