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post Aug 11 2018, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 11 2018, 08:33 PM) *
Stop making sense. Newres will hate it and resort to calling you a racist. I work with an ex Muslim girl who renounced her faith (saw the light you may say). She still has contact with her mother but her brothers and father have not spoken ro her once since that day. She actually embraces the fact they don't and realises it is a medieval practice. Shes just lucky that nothinhg has "happened" to her. But you go Newres.. Embrace the devil.

Making sense? So if he sees one these fillies in a burkha out in a short polka dot dress he’ll believe. Are you two actually allowed out on your own?
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post Aug 11 2018, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 11 2018, 08:35 PM) *
Making sense? So if he sees one these fillies in a burkha out in a short polka dot dress he’ll believe. Are you two actually allowed out on your own?

Funnily enough yes. Are you? And sorry but I take offence to the word "fillies". That is a horse that is used for breeding. Are you comparing muslim women to breeding animals? Thats disgusting. Hang your head in shame.
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post Aug 11 2018, 07:54 PM
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One more thing.... People like newres saw to the end of darts girl walk ons and grid girls... BUT are outraged when any criticism of women that basically have to or even choose to wear a bin bag takes place.

Funny that.
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post Aug 11 2018, 07:57 PM
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The operative word is 'choose', some Muslim girls 'choose' to wear these things. Umm, a bit like their 'choice' of husband isn't it? Choice, but not as we know it.


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post Aug 11 2018, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 11 2018, 08:57 PM) *
The operative word is 'choose', some Muslim girls 'choose' to wear these things. Umm, a bit like their 'choice' of husband isn't it? Choice, but not as we know it.

Completely agree. Newres seems to be in a minority. Perhaps he ought to campaign to have this site closed down. After all thats what they do isn't it?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...nies-conspiracy

Even the Guardian worries about it. These sites may spew nonsense but its more dangerous to stop it. Thays when you get real issues by driving it underground.
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post Aug 11 2018, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 11 2018, 11:50 AM) *
And there by lies the crux of the matter. Instead of disappearing up there own backsides in an effort to embrace multiculturalism the lefty lovies should be outraged that women in this country are being indoctrinated from an early age to adopt practices that are abhorrent to a civilised society. This is not simply about the questionable dress sense but the whole doctrine that requires females to be chattels of the male.
Little doubt someone will wheel out a quote by an islamic female saying it is her choice, but I would put my pension on her childhood not being as enjoyable as most children's should be.



I so wish this site had 2018 buttons. Consider this a "Like"!.


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post Aug 11 2018, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 11 2018, 07:20 PM) *
However my understanding is that in this country Muslim women choose to wear it. I appreciate that isn’t the case everywhere and I would be against anyone being forced to wear it. Have you evidence that this is the norm here?



Where do you get your "My understanding is that in this country Muslim women choose to wear it."?


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post Aug 11 2018, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 10 2018, 11:56 PM) *
Except it has nothing to do with religion rather it has to do with men holding medieval attitudes towards women.



Agree


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post Aug 11 2018, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 11 2018, 07:14 AM) *
Muslims who wear it disagree. I reckon they know more than you.


Would that include Imam Tawhidi? He would wipe the floor with you. He will agree that the covering of female bodies is a disgusting attribute of a corrupt ideology that needs changing.
Go Newres, counter Imam Tawhidi and see how it pans out. If you really want to pursue your leftist politics, br prepared to argue with those that are on the inside.


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post Aug 11 2018, 09:42 PM
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Hey Newres, check out the comments.
You will see that regardless the messenger the voices are "Assimilated".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-60...ove-helmet.html


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post Aug 12 2018, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 11 2018, 10:01 PM) *
Where do you get your "My understanding is that in this country Muslim women choose to wear it."?

Where do you get your belief that they don’t? And as I said, I would be against anyone being forced to wear anything. I could point you to interviews of women not forced to wear a burqua but it’s just anecdotal. If I believed it was forced I would oppose it. For you lot it’s just another excuse to attack foreigners.
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post Aug 12 2018, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 12 2018, 06:26 AM) *
Where do you get your belief that they don’t? And as I said, I would be against anyone being forced to wear anything. I could point you to interviews of women not forced to wear a burqua but it’s just anecdotal. If I believed it was forced I would oppose it. For you lot it’s just another excuse to attack foreigners.


Except that no one has mentioned foreigners!

There is a body of evidence collected by Social Workers which backs up the abuse of females in these circumstances which has been supressed and hidden for quite some time because of wrong inclusivity direction. Didn't you realise that's what much of the fuss is about in Rotherham and such places?

The choice isn't the one the genteel middle class adolescent girl usually has, 'should I wear this to stand out, or not? More, 'should I wear this, or just take the punishment (physiological or otherwise) instead?'.

Ironically, even the religion in question does not demand these things are worn!


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post Aug 12 2018, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 12 2018, 08:08 AM) *
Except that no one has mentioned foreigners!

There is a body of evidence collected by Social Workers which backs up the abuse of females in these circumstances which has been supressed and hidden for quite some time because of wrong inclusivity direction. Didn't you realise that's what much of the fuss is about in Rotherham and such places?

The choice isn't the one the genteel middle class adolescent girl usually has, 'should I wear this to stand out, or not? More, 'should I wear this, or just take the punishment (physiological or otherwise) instead?'.

Ironically, even the religion in question does not demand these things are worn!


Perhaps we should learn to shut our mouths, for the good of diversity?


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post Aug 12 2018, 08:36 AM
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This debate seems to concentrate round the freedom of the doctrine as opposed to that of the individual. Had I been born and raised a muslim female then it is safe to assume that I would taught from an early age what was expected of me from my family and members of my faith. To question that position would be unthinkable and therefore when confronted by some "western" view that somehow I am a freak would be worryingly offensive, but, and it is a very big but, I have never been allowed to be mix freely with my contemporaries and know very little of "liberalism", so I feel compelled to stay and marry within the safety of my peers and the more society alienates me the more entrenched I become.
This is not so much about wearing a bin bag as questioning the attitude of those who insist that a girl must, and it is about time the coffee was smelt on that one.


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post Aug 12 2018, 11:51 AM
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^^^^^ Previous two posts, very well said indeed.



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post Aug 12 2018, 08:16 PM
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haha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Yy3VYqbfY


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post Aug 12 2018, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 11 2018, 07:14 AM) *
Muslims who wear it disagree. I reckon they know more than you.


Right my little Captain Clownshoe, show me where precisely in the Scriptures of Islam, in the Quran does it say women have to wear bed sheets with slits to see out of. Where, precisely?
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post Aug 12 2018, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 11 2018, 07:16 AM) *
Balaclavas aren’t though.


Ban balaclavas and Momentum wouldn't have any thing to wear when they go out.
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post Aug 13 2018, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 10 2018, 12:32 PM) *
And how would the IRA manage funerals?

I don't understand your question? I have suggested that face coverings shouldn't be banned.

So presumably they would carry on? If they're still going that is.
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 13 2018, 12:09 AM) *
Right my little Captain Clownshoe, show me where precisely in the Scriptures of Islam, in the Quran does it say women have to wear bed sheets with slits to see out of. Where, precisely?


You can make any of the religious texts mean anything you want. They are extremely vague and also bollocks!
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