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post Feb 20 2016, 03:56 PM
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Andy Capp
post Feb 20 2016, 11:43 PM
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The biggest 'Out' problem I see is the possibility of being bullied in trade wars.
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post Feb 21 2016, 07:58 AM
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The biggest 'Out' problem I see is the possibility of being bullied in trade wars.


Actually, that pretty much sums it up for me, ironically the other way. I'd argue our commerce has been damaged since we joined, more by the subtle actions of the senior EU member states. For me, out might, just might, mean that our bankers are effectively forced to invest far more in our own industries.

Whatever the vote, I don't think day 2 will be 'carry on as normal' - even for a yes, so I'd like to see a realistic strategy from both sides outlining where they think we'd be going next.

Anyway, it's a pretty interesting point AndyC!


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- TallDarkAndHandsome   Europe - In or Out   Feb 20 2016, 03:56 PM
- - Turin Machine   Out.   Feb 20 2016, 06:58 PM
- - Andy Capp   I will vote 'Out', but I suspect the count...   Feb 20 2016, 07:29 PM
- - TallDarkAndHandsome   I'm out. Not because of immigration. I just li...   Feb 20 2016, 07:38 PM
- - x2lls   Out   Feb 20 2016, 09:23 PM
- - On the edge   Out. The negotiations didn't address the real...   Feb 20 2016, 09:24 PM
- - je suis Charlie   Out foul spot. Out, sooner the better. Put the mo...   Feb 20 2016, 11:08 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 20 2016, 11...   Feb 21 2016, 06:55 AM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 21 2016, 06:55 A...   Feb 21 2016, 01:12 PM
|- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 21 2016, 06:55 A...   Feb 21 2016, 11:23 PM
- - newres   In. I saw a "status" being shared on F...   Feb 21 2016, 05:08 AM
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|- - blackdog   QUOTE (newres @ Feb 21 2016, 05:08 AM) In...   Feb 21 2016, 12:51 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 21 2016, 12:51 PM) ...   Feb 21 2016, 01:37 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 21 2016, 12:51 PM) ...   Feb 21 2016, 03:06 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 21 2016, 03:06 PM)...   Feb 21 2016, 04:03 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 21 2016, 04:03 PM) ...   Feb 21 2016, 04:30 PM
- - nerc   out   Feb 21 2016, 06:17 AM
- - HJD   Out.   Feb 21 2016, 10:29 AM
- - Cognosco   It's out for me. I don't like the way Eur...   Feb 21 2016, 04:14 PM
|- - James_Trinder   Got to be in. We do too much trade with the rest ...   Feb 22 2016, 02:01 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Feb 22 2016, 02:01...   Feb 22 2016, 03:13 PM
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- - Andy Capp   I would be more in favour of a EU light, but to de...   Feb 21 2016, 04:35 PM
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|- - GMR   QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 05:42 PM) In...   Feb 22 2016, 05:23 PM
- - Simon Kirby   I'm undecided. I don't particularly like ...   Feb 21 2016, 08:09 PM
|- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 21 2016, 08:09 P...   Feb 21 2016, 08:23 PM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 21 2016, 08:09 P...   Feb 21 2016, 08:42 PM
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- - Andy Capp   What I'd like to know is why people would want...   Feb 22 2016, 01:20 AM
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|- - On the edge   QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 22 2016, 10...   Feb 23 2016, 07:08 AM
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- - Ken   My vote would be for out.   Feb 24 2016, 04:49 PM
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