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Thug can stay because his country’s gaols are a bit shabby!, one for the breakfast spitters! |
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Apr 7 2018, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 7 2018, 12:50 PM) Oh God. Don’t start them again off again. But this issue brings into disrepute the European Convention on Human Rights. We have a convicted violent criminal permitted to stay because a member state has gaols deemed not suitable. I would say that the rights of the population should be higher than those of a convicted criminal who was convicted in a member state. The message now to convicted violent criminals in Romania is get yourself to the UK.
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Apr 7 2018, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 7 2018, 12:50 PM) Oh God. Don’t start them again off again. Facts hurt your agenda? Andy is a very moderate man. Even he deems this an issue. How would you defend it? Human rights??
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Apr 7 2018, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 7 2018, 03:03 PM) Facts hurt your agenda? Andy is a very moderate man. Even he deems this an issue. How would you defend it? Human rights?? It's the first I've heard of it and I doubt we're getting a balanced picture from the Mail, but it does look like a loophole that needs plugging. Stop seething.
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Apr 7 2018, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 7 2018, 06:23 PM) It's the first I've heard of it and I doubt we're getting a balanced picture from the Mail, but it does look like a loophole that needs plugging. Stop seething. Im not seething my friend. I don't seethe. I comment.👍
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Apr 7 2018, 07:16 PM
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I found the following snippet from the article rather amusing - "Semi-open jails also give inmates plenty of freedom. Detainees can buy food every week in the prison shops and may be allowed to spend all day outside their cells. They have to return to their rooms only for meals and roll call". Especially the purchasing of food bit, saves the state supplying it. Why do we adhere to the rules yet the rest just take the money and put two fingers up to EU directives? And they still wonder why we wanted out.
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Si non prius succederent.......... relinquere
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Apr 7 2018, 07:16 PM
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I found the following snippet from the article rather amusing - "Semi-open jails also give inmates plenty of freedom. Detainees can buy food every week in the prison shops and may be allowed to spend all day outside their cells. They have to return to their rooms only for meals and roll call". Especially the purchasing of food bit, saves the state supplying it. Why do we adhere to the rules yet the rest just take the money and put two fingers up to EU directives? And they still wonder why we wanted out.
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Si non prius succederent.......... relinquere
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Apr 7 2018, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Apr 7 2018, 08:16 PM) I found the following snippet from the article rather amusing - "Semi-open jails also give inmates plenty of freedom. Detainees can buy food every week in the prison shops and may be allowed to spend all day outside their cells. They have to return to their rooms only for meals and roll call". Especially the purchasing of food bit, saves the state supplying it. Why do we adhere to the rules yet the rest just take the money and put two fingers up to EU directives? And they still wonder why we wanted out. Is this an EC directive? In my youth we lived opposite a retired Prison Warder who served his lady years in an Open Prison - he used to make the same accusations! That was before we'd even joined the EU! I voted leave, but one niggle I've had for a long time, had been the attitude of our own civil service. Our disillusion with over burdensome rules and regulations won't actually get better; our record prior to entry demonstrates our very own efforts were similar if not worse!
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Apr 8 2018, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 7 2018, 01:55 PM) But this issue brings into disrepute the European Convention on Human Rights. We have a convicted violent criminal permitted to stay because a member state has gaols deemed not suitable. I would say that the rights of the population should be higher than those of a convicted criminal who was convicted in a member state. The message now to convicted violent criminals in Romania is get yourself to the UK. And he successfully claimed to get his parking fees paid !!
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Apr 8 2018, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 8 2018, 01:10 AM) And he successfully claimed to get his parking fees paid !! Won’t be long before there’s Sharia law.
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Apr 8 2018, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 7 2018, 09:09 PM) Is this an EC directive? In my youth we lived opposite a retired Prison Warder who served his lady years in an Open Prison - he used to make the same accusations! That was before we'd even joined the EU!
I voted leave, but one niggle I've had for a long time, had been the attitude of our own civil service. Our disillusion with over burdensome rules and regulations won't actually get better; our record prior to entry demonstrates our very own efforts were similar if not worse! I tend to agree but, as had been said before, these are our rules, not ones imposed by "johnny foreigner". It is the sole point of government to control the proletariat not "liberalise" them.
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Si non prius succederent.......... relinquere
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Apr 8 2018, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Apr 8 2018, 09:12 AM) I tend to agree but, as had been said before, these are our rules, not ones imposed by "johnny foreigner". It is the sole point of government to control the proletariat not "liberalise" them. Surely it amounts to the same thing. Fairness, consideration for othees. Less need for the stick if we instill these values rather than anger and prejudice?
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Apr 8 2018, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 8 2018, 06:26 AM) Won’t be long before there’s Sharia law. That's right, still they might crack down on the paedo's then.
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Apr 8 2018, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 8 2018, 11:08 AM) That's right, still they might crack down on the paedo's then. I believe that Ebola might be in the mix too and disabled Muslim scroungers. And we’re paying!
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Apr 8 2018, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 8 2018, 11:16 AM) I believe that Ebola might be in the mix too and disabled Muslim scroungers. And we’re paying! The Dutch are too blame, Flemish lopears carry the disease.
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Apr 8 2018, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 8 2018, 11:16 AM) I believe that Ebola might be in the mix too and disabled Muslim scroungers. And we’re paying! Someone been smoking that bad weed again? The Telford brand?
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Apr 8 2018, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 8 2018, 11:43 AM) Someone been smoking that bad weed again? The Telford brand? Harvest Green.
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