QUOTE (Bartholomew @ Oct 10 2011, 03:22 PM)
If they want to text or talk quietly on the phone, I have no objections. What I do object to is when the music is so loud that others can hear it. This is thoughtless and is extremely irritating.
That's probably inline with most peoples feelings I guess..
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Saying that "some people (sorry but they are generally middle aged!!) are wrapped up in their own miserable little world" is exactly the opposite of what is really happening. The are being forced into someone elses miserable little world with no choice!
Haha like most of us thanks to Cameron and his crew.
QUOTE (Bloggo @ Oct 10 2011, 03:35 PM)
As you don't use public transport how can you target "middle aged" people for your disdain?
Woah woah woah there little horsey. I was only reading the BBC comments and it was several peoples (+30 or higher) rated comments where it was saying that in general the people lacking manners were the middle ages. Infact the most agreed with comments was that teenagers, if addressed as equal, would respond as such. So I thought it worthy of a discussion
. In direct response to your comments however, there are quite a few of the "older generation" who are very rude and arrogant in their ways.
I had a good 17 years of using public transport (thankfully I wised up and bought a noisy motorcycle and a car) but my experiences were fresh in my mind. Last time I used public transport was probably when I went to London to fix a companies phone system about 5 months ago. It was OK but I felt lost in a sea of middle-management, people in suits not giving a rats **** who they bump into, no-one said thanks if you moved out of their way or held a door open, many people were on the phone or had earphones in... Staff at the London Paddington, when you ask "Hi, I've not really used the tube before, what line do I need to get in order to get to <station>?" and I get a half-arsed "rawr, read the boards" response from the clerk at the "customer
help point". Thanks, I did but I wasn't sure.
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You may want to consider that perhaps the older generation have been brought up to be mindful of the feelings and sensitivities of those about them and not pollute the public environment with inane and juvenile telephone conversations and not impose their choice of music on those about them.
In short and to elaborate on your post;
What is inane and juvenile conversation to you? Talking about political goings-on? Arranging a date? Deciding what's for dinner? Checking in with their friends? Hardly very "mindful of the feelings and sensitivities of those about them" is it, to presume conversations of younger people on public transport are juvenile!?
I'm neither for or against playing music publically (as in from a phone or something) however a little bit of noise from earphones is to be expected. It's in their design, the more air they displace the more "full" the sound can be. The standard iPod earphones to, however, put a lot of sound out into the ambient and not awfully very good quality into your ear so I'm not sure what's up with that!
I think there was a study of 12-15 year olds who would play music from a phone and most of them did it and when asked "do you think other people minded?" (or something like that), their response was that they presumed people would rather listen to music of any time than the drone of the bus. Still it's an interesting topic.