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post Nov 18 2011, 12:11 PM
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Does anyone else get a little fed up with being mugged today? Don't get me wrong - It's a good charity but you don't get mugged in the same way when you go and buy a poppy from the British Legion. Also you can't get away from it on BBC1 tonight. Personally I also prefer other charities such as Cancer Research, the RNLI, Air Ambulance and Alzheimers.

Again - this is not a dig at fund raisers. Good luck to them.
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post Nov 18 2011, 12:51 PM
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To be fair, it's not quite so bad as 'Red Nose Day'.

Oh the irony of having Dawn French and Robbie Coltrane walking around Africa telling us " there's not enough food"

Why's that then Dawn?
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post Nov 18 2011, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 18 2011, 12:11 PM) *
Also you can't get away from it on BBC1 tonight.

But it's easy enough to get away from BBC1, it's not a great hardship.
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post Nov 18 2011, 12:58 PM
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post Nov 18 2011, 08:28 PM
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I would like to know why the BBC would be involved in charity fundraising anyway. Surely if they are supposed to be impartial, and unbiased they should be involved in every charity or none?
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post Nov 18 2011, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Nov 18 2011, 08:28 PM) *
I would like to know why the BBC would be involved in charity fundraising anyway. Surely if they are supposed to be impartial, and unbiased they should be involved in every charity or none?

Well, if you would just put that spoonful of curry down for a moment, it started by someone at the BBC who thought it might be good if they would use their broadcasting potential to raise some money from people that can afford it for children that will more than likely has a **** life. rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 19 2011, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 18 2011, 12:11 PM) *
Does anyone else get a little fed up with being mugged today? Don't get me wrong - It's a good charity but you don't get mugged in the same way when you go and buy a poppy from the British Legion. Also you can't get away from it on BBC1 tonight. Personally I also prefer other charities such as Cancer Research, the RNLI, Air Ambulance and Alzheimers.

Again - this is not a dig at fund raisers. Good luck to them.


Agree with you TDH.

They just nag and beg like it's a big deal when you can equally turn over to ITV. rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 19 2011, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Nov 18 2011, 08:28 PM) *
I would like to know why the BBC would be involved in charity fundraising anyway. Surely if they are supposed to be impartial, and unbiased they should be involved in every charity or none?


It's not about helping kids, it's about celebrities.

It's an ideal way for corporate sponsors such as BT and HSBC to pay for airtime on the taxpayer funded BBC (budget £3bn a year).



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post Nov 19 2011, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE (Bofem @ Nov 19 2011, 07:34 AM) *
It's not about helping kids, it's about celebrities.

It's an ideal way for corporate sponsors such as BT and HSBC to pay for airtime on the taxpayer funded BBC (budget £3bn a year).


Bah Humbug!

I bet you hate Christmas, Bonfire night, Street Parties and Birthdays also don't ya?
If some so called celebs get in front of the camera so what.
Its where the money goes that count.
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post Nov 19 2011, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Nov 19 2011, 08:40 AM) *
Bah Humbug!

I bet you hate Christmas, Bonfire night, Street Parties and Birthdays also don't ya?
If some so called celebs get in front of the camera so what.
Its where the money goes that count.


Agree. At least the money stays in the UK and not sent abroad!
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post Nov 19 2011, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Nov 18 2011, 08:28 PM) *
I would like to know why the BBC would be involved in charity fundraising anyway. Surely if they are supposed to be impartial, and unbiased they should be involved in every charity or none?


It is their charity, as far as I know.
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post Nov 19 2011, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Nov 19 2011, 08:40 AM) *
Bah Humbug!

I bet you hate Christmas, Bonfire night, Street Parties and Birthdays also don't ya?
If some so called celebs get in front of the camera so what.
Its where the money goes that count.


You're right, it's not for me.

Quite why a charity with £31m in reserves needs to raise another £60m to 'carry on this good work' is baffling.





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post Nov 19 2011, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE (Bofem @ Nov 19 2011, 06:46 PM) *
You're right, it's not for me.

Quite why a charity with £31m in reserves needs to raise another £60m to 'carry on this good work' is baffling.


Because....
Without income there is no money to spend over coming months/years. As the annual spend is just shy of #40m I reckon it is not too difficult to realise the reserve is not working capital.

Someone you know may be benefiting
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post Nov 19 2011, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (Bofem @ Nov 19 2011, 06:46 PM) *
You're right, it's not for me.

Quite why a charity with £31m in reserves needs to raise another £60m to 'carry on this good work' is baffling.


Sorry where does it say that? The tables were confusing me and I'm not an accountant........ rolleyes.gif dry.gif
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post Nov 20 2011, 07:18 AM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Nov 19 2011, 07:20 PM) *
Sorry where does it say that? The tables were confusing me and I'm not an accountant........ rolleyes.gif dry.gif


Page 27. Under "Reserves".



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post Nov 20 2011, 08:20 AM
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Children in need is a Telethon. Who cares why celebrities go on there for, they raise a lot of money for children's charities very successfully.
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post Nov 20 2011, 09:51 AM
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Is it not the case, with a charity, that donations come in, and later go out to pay for the activities?
The time between, when the donations are held in cash form, they are called 'reserves'. Charities are not allowed to make a profit, nor to hang on to enormous sums in excess of their realistic activities.

So #30m is what they are holding at a moment in time. With a spend flow of #40m then a current holding of #30m seems ok to me. As regards why they 'need' #60m, that amount is the product of the fund raising and will have to be turned into future projects.

Your lemon sucking activities get in the way of objective reasoning
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post Nov 20 2011, 10:48 AM
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I don't object to children in need, the same as I don't object to any charity, although I don't feel obligated to give to any. What I don't like is that I have to pay a TV license for the BBC because I get supposedly no adverts, and complete neutrality. A telefon doesn't fit into that model.
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post Nov 20 2011, 10:51 AM
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Well, I doubt you have ever had 'complete neutrality'!
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post Nov 20 2011, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Nov 20 2011, 10:48 AM) *
I don't object to children in need, the same as I don't object to any charity, although I don't feel obligated to give to any. What I don't like is that I have to pay a TV license for the BBC because I get supposedly no adverts, and complete neutrality. A telefon doesn't fit into that model.

Blue Peter appeals, Live Aid?

While it might be a charity event, there will be many people who like to watch it as entertainment; seeing celebrities in unusually circumstances; seeing Susanna Reid dance for instance! tongue.gif
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