Sterilisation of Drug Addicts & Alcoholics.., A good idea or the start of Eugenics...?? Options

[TallDarkAndHands...]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11545519

[Bloggo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11545519

Great idea. It's a free choice and is nobody's business but theirs.

[JeffG]

The Nazis were good at this sort of thing.

[urZah]

The Nazis were good at this sort of thing.

At voluntary chemical castration? I think their work went a fair bit further than that.

[Simon Kirby]

A charity wants to give people £200 to be steralized? Tell me again what's the downside?

Here, I heard a funny one the other day. Somebody suggested that mothers should be paid to have children - £1050 for the first child, and then £700 for each child after that - and the best bit was that I should pay for it! Honestly, the things people say.

[GMR]

The Nazis were good at this sort of thing.

With the Nazis' you didn't have a choice. A totally different thing.

[DrPepper]

Chemical castration? That'll be 12 cans of special brew then

[JeffG]

Who said anything about chemical castration? He was bribed to have a vasectomy.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Who said anything about chemical castration? He was bribed to have a vasectomy.

Yep - Put your Gonads between these two bricks and we'll give you £200 to buy some more crack...

[Richard Garvie]

This is hideous. I read a good piece in the Evening Standard about this last night, basically a woman had been on drugs in her yourger years after falling in with the wrong crowd. If she had been offered £200 back then she would of took it to buy more drugs. Now she has three kids that had this scheme have been live back in the day, she would have missed out on motherhood.

I think this scheme hasn't really been thought through, and is it actually "legally sound". I mean, can someone take the money now, then in ten years when they have sorted their lives out bring legal action against these people from taking advantage of their vulnerable state of mind???

Let's get people off drugs, not publicise gimmicks that don't really have much of a benefit to society.

[dannyboy]

This is hideous. I read a good piece in the Evening Standard about this last night, basically a woman had been on drugs in her yourger years after falling in with the wrong crowd. If she had been offered £200 back then she would of took it to buy more drugs. Now she has three kids that had this scheme have been live back in the day, she would have missed out on motherhood.

I think this scheme hasn't really been thought through, and is it actually "legally sound". I mean, can someone take the money now, then in ten years when they have sorted their lives out bring legal action against these people from taking advantage of their vulnerable state of mind???

Let's get people off drugs, not publicise gimmicks that don't really have much of a benefit to society.

Well said.

[Bloggo]

This is hideous. I read a good piece in the Evening Standard about this last night, basically a woman had been on drugs in her yourger years after falling in with the wrong crowd. If she had been offered £200 back then she would of took it to buy more drugs. Now she has three kids that had this scheme have been live back in the day, she would have missed out on motherhood.

I think this scheme hasn't really been thought through, and is it actually "legally sound". I mean, can someone take the money now, then in ten years when they have sorted their lives out bring legal action against these people from taking advantage of their vulnerable state of mind???

Let's get people off drugs, not publicise gimmicks that don't really have much of a benefit to society.

Yes, it is well said however our society is not capable of getting people off of drugs. Drug dependency is becoming worse and the drug culture permeates many areas of lives. It is even found in schools and prisons, places where you would hope there was some control.
Unless the law gets tough the situation will get worse.

[Richard Garvie]

Fully agree bloggo, and that is exactly what we nee to do. GET TOUGHER on the causes and prevention methods. As for prison officers who allow items to be smuggled in (not just drugs), lock them up too.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Instead of giving them the £200 why not just give them a load of crack / heroin / drug of choice etc to the value of £200 when they have been 'neutralised'. I wonder how many OD's will result from this 'charitable' act?

[Biker1]

"Falling in with the wrong crowd"
You make it sound like you catch it like a disease.

Nobody forces people to do drugs or to choose the wrong type of friends.
It is all their own doing but they do not want to take responsibility for it!

[dannyboy]

"Falling in with the wrong crowd"
You make it sound like you catch it like a disease.

Nobody forces people to do drugs or to choose the wrong type of friends.
It is all their own doing but they do not want to take responsibility for it!

Does the same apply to smokers? Obese people?

[Biker1]

Does the same apply to smokers? Obese people?

Yes!

Although those things are not illegal.

[Iommi]

"Falling in with the wrong crowd"
You make it sound like you catch it like a disease.

To some, that is what it is like. It certainly is what it feels like when you are a parent of said people. Some people are 'born addicts'.

[Rachel]

This is hideous. I read a good piece in the Evening Standard about this last night, basically a woman had been on drugs in her yourger years after falling in with the wrong crowd. If she had been offered £200 back then she would of took it to buy more drugs. Now she has three kids that had this scheme have been live back in the day, she would have missed out on motherhood.

I think this scheme hasn't really been thought through, and is it actually "legally sound". I mean, can someone take the money now, then in ten years when they have sorted their lives out bring legal action against these people from taking advantage of their vulnerable state of mind???

Let's get people off drugs, not publicise gimmicks that don't really have much of a benefit to society.

Spot on. Well said.

[Rachel]

To some, that is what it is like. It certainly is what it feels like when you are a parent of said people. Some people are 'born addicts'.

I believe some people do have an addictive personality, so, dependant on what you believe has the greater effect (nature or nurture) they are possibly born that way. There is only one person that can truly clean themself up....the addict themself. If the will is not there, all the support, guidance, force, encouragement, deprivation-whatever-won't help them, it's got to come from within.