I don't believe it! Options

[On the edge]

Or plot how you're going to get back at those that put you inside.

I do that anyway - without being inside - every time I get the Water rates.

[Bloggo]

Or plot how you're going to get back at those that put you inside.

If they are given the correct treatment for their misdemeanors the last thing they will consider is the possibility of going back to jail.
The soft options in jails have to stop. You can't teach a man that crime does not pay when he has 3 good meals day, TV, games, mobile phones, etc etc.
Until society learns that it has to get tough for the sake of the public and the criminal then crime will increase year on year.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

If they are given the correct treatment for their misdemeanors the last thing they will consider is the possibility of going back to jail.
The soft options in jails have to stop. You can't teach a man that crime does not pay when he has 3 good meals day, TV, games, mobile phones, etc etc.
Until society learns that it has to get tough for the sake of the public and the criminal then crime will increase year on year.

You won't win that argument with a lot of the users of this forum. They would rather pat them on the head, give them benefits and therapy and wonder why oh why they could reoffend when released. They don't get the fact that some people are just 'bad'.

[Iommi]

They don't get the fact that some people are just 'bad'.

...and some people aren't.

[Bloggo]

You won't win that argument with a lot of the users of this forum. They would rather pat them on the head, give them benefits and therapy and wonder why oh why they could reoffend when released. They don't get the fact that some people are just 'bad'.

You know TDH, it isn't an argument. It is a reality.
You will only stop people commiting crimes by making the result of that crime very uncomfortable for them and if they reoffend you make it worse. Human nature.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

...and some people aren't.

Quite agree Iommi. But my argument is that some people seem to think there is good in all and that there must be a reason for the way people behave. I think it's too simplistic a view. You can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink....

[Bloggo]

...and some people aren't.

and some are.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

and some are.

Watch out Bloggo. We'll be accused of being right wing extremists soon... By the way I'll see you at the Klan meeting on Saturday if not before.

[Iommi]

and some are.

That, is already understood and is implicit in my statement.

[Iommi]

Watch out Bloggo. We'll be accused of being right wing extremists soon... By the way I'll see you at the Klan meeting on Saturday if not before.

Some on here already realise you are that.

[Iommi]

Quite agree Iommi. But my argument is that some people seem to think there is good in all and that there must be a reason for the way people behave.

...but surely that is true. Nothing happens without a reason.

[Biker1]

Some on here already realise you are that.

Right Wing - yes.............Extremest - No.

[Iommi]

Right Wing - yes.............Extremest - No.

...unless you had your way!

[Biker1]

...unless you had your way!

Well the way I see it some right wing policies have to be adopted if we are to get ourselves out of the social mess we are in.

[Bloggo]

Some on here already realise you are that.

Could be a case for deformation of character

[Bloggo]

Well the way I see it some right wing policies have to be adopted if we are to get ourselves out of the social mess we are in.

I agree. Some people have their head in the sand.
If you have suffered a break-in or been assaulted and robbed you may think differently.

[Iommi]

Could be a case for deformation of character

Only if it were directed at anyone in particular who could be identified in public and if it were untrue!

I agree. Some people have their head in the sand.
If you have suffered a break-in or been assaulted and robbed you may think differently.

This all happened in the 'good old days' of hanging and slopping-out as well. This isn't new phenomena.

[Andy]

Well the way I see it some right wing policies have to be adopted if we are to get ourselves out of the social mess we are in.

I agree. Some people have their head in the sand.
If you have suffered a break-in or been assaulted and robbed you may think differently.

Like?

[Bloggo]

Only if it were directed at anyone in particular who could be identified in public and if it were untrue!

You are quite correct but one must exercise care when making inflamitary statements.

This all happened in the 'good old days' of hanging and slopping-out as well. This isn't new phenomena.

And you point is what exactly?

[Iommi]

You are quite correct but one must exercise care when making inflamitary statements.

It was a joke (wink smilie), but never mind.

And you point is what exactly?

When prison was 'tuff', people still broke the law as they do today. You are implying by going back that it would fix the problem.

Bloggo: "I agree. Some people have their head in the sand. If you have suffered a break-in or been assaulted and robbed you may think differently.".

I'm not sure it would.