Another one gets off Options

[JeffG]

Here's another one:

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=13103

The poor fellow needs "help".

Edit: why not provide this after he's served his time?

[GMR]

Here's another one:

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=13103

The poor fellow needs "help".

Edit: why not provide this after he's served his time?

It is nice to see they are helping this chap. Sod the victims as they are not important in the great scheme of things. In fact I would go one step further and release every criminal in jail and help them (with money, housing, care help, counselling, support.... erm... sorry, they get that anyway!) and lock up all the victims for daring to suggest that THEY may need help themselves; after all this government seems to be going down that path anyway.

[Biker1]

I ask again, as I have many times before when this type of story emerges..............

What party of government is going to change this tide of lenient attitude towards criminals so that those who aren't can lead safer, better lives?

It would, I should imagine, be one with right wing leanings, but, when this type of party emerges they and their policies are classed as fascist or authoritarian.

We have to make a choice - whether we want the liberal society that we have at the moment, that which many people complain about on this and other forums.
Or a society where wrongdoing such as that highlighted in this thread and in many others is not tolerated and is dealt with accordingly.

You can't have it both ways!!

[user23]

You can't have it both ways!!

I agree with this pretty much. Those that call for the law to be upheld in a far stricter manner in general should perhaps think how they would feel if they were to be caught and punished for the next crime they commit in this fashion.

[Iommi]

I agree with this pretty much. Those that call for the law to be upheld in a far stricter manner in general should perhaps think how they would feel if they were to be caught and punished for the next crime they commit in this fashion.

Perhaps many people do and this contributes to some form of decorum.

[Jayjay]

I ask again, as I have many times before when this type of story emerges..............

What party of government is going to change this tide of lenient attitude towards criminals so that those who aren't can lead safer, better lives?

It would, I should imagine, be one with right wing leanings, but, when this type of party emerges they and their policies are classed as fascist or authoritarian.

We have to make a choice - whether we want the liberal society that we have at the moment, that which many people complain about on this and other forums.
Or a society where wrongdoing such as that highlighted in this thread and in many others is not tolerated and is dealt with accordingly.

You can't have it both ways!!

You can have it both ways. We can have a society that has human rights, when you cannot persecute people for being different, a right to fairness in the workplace, a right to be heard etc. but one that is also tough on ASB and crime and refuses to reward trumped up claims for 'isms' and flimsy excuses for wrongdoing.

Just reading through the posts on this forum, the majority of posters are fair minded people who believe the punishment should fit the crime. We need a party of common sense.

[Biker1]

You can have it both ways. We need a party of common sense.

OK so who do I vote for that will give us this then?
Someone please enlighten me!

[user23]

OK so who do I vote for that will give us this then?
Someone please enlighten me!

Which version of common sense too, there's quite a few.

[Strafin]

Just reading through the posts on this forum, the majority of posters are fair minded people who believe the punishment should fit the crime.

I don't! I think the punishment should be way over the top in terms of the crime.

[dannyboy]

I don't! I think the punishment should be way over the top in terms of the crime.

A mix of English Common law & Islamic sharia maybe?

[Strafin]

I just think steal a car, go to prison for 10 years. Burgle someone - 15 years. I'd think twice.

[Guest_Newbury Expat_*]

I just think steal a car, go to prison for 10 years. Burgle someone - 15 years. I'd think twice.

You would indeed (the general you, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't think once about thieving). But sadly you (the specific you this time ) would also end up paying a lot more tax to pay for the increased length of stays 'at her majesty's pleasure'.

Not many win-win scenarios out there unfortunately.

[dannyboy]

I just think steal a car, go to prison for 10 years. Burgle someone - 15 years. I'd think twice.

Do you really have to think about it at all?

I don't need a deterent not to steal

[JeffG]

I don't need a deterent not to steal

But then you're not a criminal (apologies if I'm making assumptions ). I think the post was about deterring someone who might otherwise commit a crime from doing so.

[x2lls]

You would indeed (the general you, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't think once about thieving). But sadly you (the specific you this time ) would also end up paying a lot more tax to pay for the increased length of stays 'at her majesty's pleasure'.

Not many win-win scenarios out there unfortunately.

That is perhaps a short term view. Surely over time, the cost would be outweighed by a deterrant factor. Not to mention the victims and the overall cost of both emotional and material cost. Insurance would be affected, as would the time spent investigating and prosecuting.

[Darren]

Simple fact.

There has always been crime in one form or another, ever since there have been laws. This goes right back to a Fred Flintstone type bashing a Wilma Slaghoople type over the head with a club and dragging her off to be his wife.

There will always be crime until such time as the 'criminal gene (if it exists) is removed. There will always be sociopaths for whom there will be no deterrent not to commit crime. It's been shown that the death penalty is no deterrent. While locking people up so they cannot commit crime may seem an attractive option, where does it stop?

[Roost]

And another one....!

This just beggars belief.
Offender guilty of a sexual offence against a CHILD and walks free from court.

Shoplifter sent to prison. Ok, I appreciate he's a prolific thief but where's the priority?

[Bloggo]

And another one....!

This just beggars belief.
Offender guilty of a sexual offence against a CHILD and walks free from court.

Shoplifter sent to prison. Ok, I appreciate he's a prolific thief but where's the priority?

At the risk of sounding predictable, he should have been sent to jail.
The guidance says he should have got 4 years but the "judge" decided against it.
I just don't understand that the people in positions of power who should be representing us are representing themselves.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

At the risk of sounding predictable, he should have been sent to jail.
The guidance says he should have got 4 years but the "judge" decided against it.
I just don't understand that the people in positions of power who should be representing us are representing themselves.

Bloggo - They have more important things to me doing with the tax payers money.....

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=13268

[Strafin]

And another one....!

This just beggars belief.
Offender guilty of a sexual offence against a CHILD and walks free from court.

Shoplifter sent to prison. Ok, I appreciate he's a prolific thief but where's the priority?

Who???