General Election 2017, What a massive lead in the polls brings! Options

[Andy Capp]

But we all know what polls can be like! I'm waiting for the 'Queen' of lurkers to show up and bestow her wisdom!

[Andy Capp]

I'm not sure anecdotes are measure of national mood on any particular subject, or even if it matters. We all know what a bunch of dumbarses the electorate can be.

Sadly, as the LibDem manifesto demonstrates the dumbarse electorate get what they deserve, dumbarse parties.

As it is likely the Lib Dems will finish no higher than 3rd, using your measurement, the Tories and Labour are dumber!

Aren't those things currently illegal; what are they meant to do: make them more illegal? What are labour doing about it?

That's the point, cannibis and running brothels are illegal today. Why have these crimes and not other 'social crimes' been chosen? I don't think the other parties including Labour have changed from the 'tough on crime tough on the causes' mantra; which doesn't mean reducing crime rates by abolishing the offence.

If the activity is perceived to be benign, why should we need to maintain its illegal status? Of course, there is an ugly side to drug abuse or prostitution, but taxation could fund initiatives to help control that.

If your view is that the cost of policing drug abuse is reasonable and if you think the the current law and policing keeps drug abuse to a minimum then clearly the pledge is not for you, but you have not yet argued a rational case for why the pledge is repugnant or ridiculous. Disagreeable maybe, but your rantinging is on par with the other hysterical rightists on here.

I don't see how the drug policy is a moral one; it looks more like a practical one to me.

It's moral, in that it is thought to be protecting people from themselves. We have had many years of seeing the effects of drug abuse on individuals and it's consequential overspill into society generally. There is, as yet, no credible evidence to suggest the dangers don't exist arguably quite the reverse.

Sorry, I didn't know you were an expert, but I am accepting in good faith that policy has been developed after consultation. I'd rather that we stop criminalising pot/weed/resin smokers and re-focus resources on other areas that might need resources. Cybercrime for instance.

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Sadly, as the LibDem manifesto demonstrates the dumbarse electorate get what they deserve, dumbarse parties.
As it is likely the Lib Dems will finish no higher than 3rd, using your measurement, the Tories and Labour are dumber!

That's the point, cannibis and running brothels are illegal today. Why have these crimes and not other 'social crimes' been chosen? I don't think the other parties including Labour have changed from the 'tough on crime tough on the causes' mantra; which doesn't mean reducing crime rates by abolishing the offence.
If the activity is perceived to be benign, why should we need to maintain its illegal status? Of course, there is an ugly side to drug abuse or prostitution, but taxation could fund initiatives to help control that.

If your view is that the cost of policing drug abuse is reasonable and if you think the the current law and policing keeps drug abuse to a minimum then clearly the pledge is not for you, but you have not yet argued a rational case for why the pledge is repugnant or ridiculous. Disagreeable maybe, but your rantinging is on par with the other hysterical rightists on here.


It's moral, in that it is thought to be protecting people from themselves. We have had many years of seeing the effects of drug abuse on individuals and it's consequential overspill into society generally. There is, as yet, no credible evidence to suggest the dangers don't exist arguably quite the reverse.
Sorry, I didn't know you were an expert, but I am accepting in good faith that policy has been developed after consultation. I'd rather that we stop criminalising pot/weed/resin smokers and re-focus resources on other areas that might need resources. Cybercrime for instance.

I'll leave it there, nothing has changed and it simply reinforces my own view of where our society is now going.

A letter in this week's NWN suggests the Tories want to take us back to the 1870's as a repost to the jibe that Labour is returning the 1970s. Well, I'll give the LibDems their due, they've gone one better - back to the 1770s; Hogarth is back!

[Andy Capp]

I'll leave it there, nothing has changed and it simply reinforces my own view of where our society is now going.

A letter in this week's NWN suggests the Tories want to take us back to the 1870's as a repost to the jibe that Labour is returning the 1970s. Well, I'll give the LibDems their due, they've gone one better - back to the 1770s; Hogarth is back!

Don't worry, while we have people with an irrational fear of change we will be going nowhere.