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HJD
post Dec 18 2016, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Dec 18 2016, 12:03 PM) *
Incidentally, I prefer silence when I'm driving on my own and rarely have the radio on.


That's one of the best things I enjoy when on my Motorbike, no distractions therefor total concentration on what I'm doing. cool.gif
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post Dec 18 2016, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (HJD @ Dec 18 2016, 07:38 PM) *
That's one of the best things I enjoy when on my Motorbike, no distractions therefor total concentration on what I'm doing. cool.gif


Helmet speakers not connected hands free yet HJD?


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post Dec 19 2016, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 18 2016, 10:04 PM) *
Helmet speakers not connected hands free yet HJD?


No, I don't even take the wife on the back, total peace ! wink.gif
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post Dec 20 2016, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (HJD @ Dec 19 2016, 11:40 AM) *
No, I don't even take the wife on the back, total peace ! wink.gif

Yep, nothing quite beats it eh?
Roll on the Spring! biggrin.gif
(Sorry Brewmaster!!) tongue.gif
(Another anti bike letter in the NWN. We're not all bad you know) rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 20 2016, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 17 2016, 07:30 PM) *
This might be part of the answer

"Mobile phones could soon be blocked from working while cars are being driven to deter people from using them at the wheel.
Almost one in three motorists admitted they have used their phone while driving and 17,500 people were taken to court last year.
The Department for Transport will have an 'exploratory meeting' with mobile phone companies and network providers early next year to discuss the new technology. "

If it's true, and if it works, great!!


However...

Many people use their mobiles as satnav these days;
Black box insurance uses the mobile telephone system I believe;
how do you restrict the 'blanking' to just the driver - or is there to be no mobile phone use by passengers - even on buses;
how do ensure retro fit - normally laws in this country are not retrospective
how will manufacturers ensure that such a device will not interfere with vehicle electronics
some high-end vehicles use the mobiles system to communicate with owners/dealers/manufacturers/SOS centres

The DoT may wish, even demand, this but the changes in the law will be a change of the Wireless Telegraphy legislation, not traffic legislation, which currently does not allow individuals to transmit on the mobile phone spectra. This is why mobiles cannot be blocked in schools or prisons, etc

Great soundbite but, as usual, impractical.

...and I believe that the lorry driver jailed for the recent fatal on the A34 was fiddling with the music side of his mobile - which wouldn't have been prevented by blocking his mobile signal

What is needed, until it can be upgraded, is a far greater Police presence on the A34. Plus the ability for the Police to confiscate a mobile, place it just in front of the rear wheel and wave the driver on his way...

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post Dec 20 2016, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Dec 20 2016, 01:00 PM) *
Great soundbite but, as usual, impractical.

...and I believe that the lorry driver jailed for the recent fatal on the A34 was fiddling with the music side of his mobile - which wouldn't have been prevented by blocking his mobile signal
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Fully agree with your post and have argued the same when it's been discussed in the pub. Why should passengers phones be locked out (can you imagine the carnage on the back seat from teenagers denied use of their mobiles for more than 10 minutes). How would the signal determine whether you were in a car and blocked, or in a train and entitled to use a phone. Or on a coach trip. More people use their phones as Satnavs. Not everyone has a car with an inbuilt device or a separate Tom Tom device.

And if it wasn't for the presence of the dashcam in this instance of the A34 fatal it would have been recorded as an unfortunate accident as the driver wasn't actually 'using his mobile'. He could have claimed he nodded off, or had a medical incident. It would still have been a terrible incident, but he personally wouldn't have been vilified or subject to jail time. Using the phone as an mp3 player is something which many people will also want to keep continuing to use their mobiles for in the car.
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post Dec 20 2016, 10:26 PM
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I do sometimes worry about the somewhat Orwellian slavishness with which some people regard their devices, one of my great joys is to go away for two or three weeks, get there, throw the phone in a drawer and forget about it. But seriously, we need to do something to fix the problem, every day I see Lord knows how many people steering one handed whilst pressing a square of plastic to the side of their heads totally oblivious to the world.

I remember the fuss when laws required you to wear seat belts, "can't be done" "stupid idea" people said. But it's the norm now.


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post Dec 20 2016, 10:34 PM
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Perhaps we should make mobiles easier and safer to use when driving? wink.gif
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post Dec 20 2016, 11:13 PM
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Its called Bluetooth.


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post Dec 21 2016, 02:26 AM
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Yeah but Siri isn't quite there yet.
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post Dec 21 2016, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 21 2016, 03:26 AM) *
Yeah but Siri isn't quite there yet.

Omg! Apple is like, so last year matey! WOW you must be like so OLD man! ohmy.gif


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post Dec 22 2016, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 21 2016, 10:20 AM) *
Omg! Apple is like, so last year matey! WOW you must be like so OLD man! ohmy.gif

I just discovered it ain't compatible with Betamax cassettes!
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post Dec 22 2016, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 22 2016, 01:45 AM) *
I just discovered it ain't compatible with Betamax cassettes!

Try it with video disks!


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post Jan 25 2017, 08:11 PM
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Well there you go!
Again not the road that's "dangerous" but the twats that use it!! angry.gif
These idiots don't take any notice of one law so why would they abide by a 50mph speed limit?
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post Jan 26 2017, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 25 2017, 08:11 PM) *
Well there you go!
Again not the road that's "dangerous" but the twats that use it!! angry.gif
These idiots don't take any notice of one law so why would they abide by a 50mph speed limit?

You rarely see anyone speeding in an average speed check stretch of motorway.
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post Jan 27 2017, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jan 26 2017, 09:13 PM) *
You rarely see anyone speeding in an average speed check stretch of motorway.

OK fair enough but you can still kill people with a 40 ton juggernaut (or even a Fiat 500) if you are not watching where where you are going!
Perhaps the speed limit should be 20mph to cater for these types!?
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post Jan 27 2017, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 27 2017, 09:03 AM) *
OK fair enough but you can still kill people with a 40 ton juggernaut (or even a Fiat 500) if you are not watching where where you are going!
Perhaps the speed limit should be 20mph to cater for these types!?


4 mph and a man with a red flag preceding.

See Road Safety and unemployment issues resolved at a stroke biggrin.gif
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post Jan 27 2017, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jan 26 2017, 08:13 PM) *
You rarely see anyone speeding in an average speed check stretch of motorway.

True enough - but would such a speed limit on the A34 be enforced with average speed check cameras? I doubt it.
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post Jan 27 2017, 10:06 AM
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Driverless vehicles....


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post Jan 27 2017, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 27 2017, 10:06 AM) *
Driverless vehicles....


Judging on the accident rate, that would appear to be what we already have (without the compensating technology) biggrin.gif
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