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> A light hearted view of common spelling mistakes, Which ones get yer goat?
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:45 AM
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Here's another one: redundant apostrophe's [sic]
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Dec 27 2012, 10:45 AM) *
Here's another one: redundant apostrophe's [sic]


The most common spelling mistake seen on car sale adverts is the use of breaks rather than brakes.
And just to prove my point type in break pads(sic) into ebay search.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:05 AM
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Bought and brought


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 27 2012, 10:27 AM) *
Yes, some don't unfortunately.
Their are some folks who don't care about there spelling and this, in many ways, can hold them back in life! wink.gif
For example, if you were a potential employer and had 2 cv's, one with correct spelling and one with spelling errors, which would you throw in the bin?


Ummm, would you like a list? Albert Einstein, Ernest Hemingway, Jane Austin, John Keats, Winston Churchill, Agatha Christie, etc. etc. Just think where some of us would be if we weren't constantly losing time checking others!


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:10 AM
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In my long working life (I'm 70 now) and still at it, I have done many jobs to earn a crust. Bar work I always liked because of meeting lots of different people. On writing out the menu board in the pubs we always misspelled a word deliberately, soap in stead of soup and so on. Without fail you would always have the clever-**** point out the mistake. It was just a way of getting people to read the board. I suspect that the chip and dale example and others was done for the same reason.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:12 AM
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Not quite the same thing, but even BBC presenters cannot pronounce innovative properly. They use the Americanism: in-o-vay-tive instead of in-uh-vat-ive.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:15 AM
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The wonderful G.W.Bush and the word Nuclear, neucaler.


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 27 2012, 11:12 AM) *
Not quite the same thing, but even BBC presenters cannot pronounce innovative properly. They use the Americanism: in-o-vay-tive instead of in-uh-vat-ive.


Which is correct? As we have no 'English Acadamy' must be majority rule; so in-o-vay-tive is right.,


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 27 2012, 11:18 AM) *
Which is correct? As we have no 'English Acadamy' must be majority rule; so in-o-vay-tive is right.,

I'd say Received Pronunciation is as close as it gets, but there is no right or wrong, it is a style thing. in-o-vay-tive is new and a seemingly American way of saying it.

BTW - if we are to accept majority rule, then 'Eastenders' is the best thing on telly at Christmas. wink.gif
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Dec 27 2012, 10:45 AM) *
Here's another one: redundant apostrophe's [sic]


Never been 100% on this.
For example

I understand as correct John's sister.

but what about the sister of Doris.

Doris's sister or do we write Doris' sister.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Dec 27 2012, 11:48 AM) *
Never been 100% on this.
For example

I understand as correct John's sister.

but what about the sister of Doris.

Doris's sister or do we write Doris' sister.

Normally it is Doris's. Some 'classic' names don't though: Jesus, for example, is always Jesus'.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 27 2012, 10:27 AM) *
For example, if you were a potential employer and had 2 cv's,......


Citroen 2CVs are for French farmers. I'd throw them both in the skip.
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post Dec 27 2012, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 27 2012, 11:40 AM) *
I'd say Received Pronunciation is as close as it gets, but there is no right or wrong, it is a style thing. in-o-vay-tive is new and a seemingly American way of saying it.

BTW - if we are to accept majority rule, then 'Eastenders' is the best thing on telly at Christmas. wink.gif


What about Standard English? Received Pronunciation used by less than 5% of the population. One of the reasons 'English; has developed is its ability to evolve. Of course, there will be new words and idioms we don't like but we are not forced to use them. so there is a chance they'll go out of use.

What's wrong with Eastenders? Personally I don't like it, or others of its type, but that's a matter of personal choice. If we are to have a very expensive public service broadcaster, I'd much rather it delivered value to the mass audience, rather than have something imposed by those who think they are our betters! rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 27 2012, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 27 2012, 12:04 PM) *
What about Standard English? Received Pronunciation used by less than 5% of the population. One of the reasons 'English; has developed is its ability to evolve. Of course, there will be new words and idioms we don't like but we are not forced to use them. so there is a chance they'll go out of use. What's wrong with Eastenders? Personally I don't like it, or others of its type, but that's a matter of personal choice. If we are to have a very expensive public service broadcaster, I'd much rather it delivered value to the mass audience, rather than have something imposed by those who think they are our betters! rolleyes.gif

Argumentative today, aren't we? tongue.gif

OK, the masses know best do they? EastEnders appeals to the lowest common denominator, and just like the media, serve to titillate all that is insidious in human nature. Sure, if that doesn't matter let's all go that way. If the majority think we should leave Europe, regardless of the technical merits and ignorance of the mass, let's all go that way, that sounds sensible (irony). huh.gif

Most people do not have impeccable spelling, should we therefore default to that level? Personally, I'd rather a public broadcaster that can enlighten public awareness rather than have a race to the bottom. wink.gif
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post Dec 27 2012, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 27 2012, 11:18 AM) *
Which is correct? As we have no 'English Acadamy' must be majority rule; so in-o-vay-tive is right.,

There's not really a "correct" way though.. each area has it's local colloquialisms... To expect and force people to pronounce things the same is akin to being Hitler.
And here I invoke Godwin's law.


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post Dec 27 2012, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Dec 27 2012, 12:41 PM) *
There's not really a "correct" way though.. each area has it's local colloquialisms... To expect and force people to pronounce things the same is akin to being Hitler.

'Expect' and 'force' are different things. The ability to read, write, and speak well, comes from good education. It follows, therefore, that the proper way to communicate can be taken from those that have had the best training.

There is no obligation to do things correctly, as might have been the case under Hitler, but it will always help us to communicate effectively if we all followed similar communication protocols. I think we should try to raise standards, not allow them to find their own level. Society makes no progress going in that direction.
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post Dec 27 2012, 01:01 PM
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But why force "progress"? It's not even progress, it's just how people talk..

If someone wants to say innovaytive or innovuhtive, who really cares...

And yet if the Government wants to give you ID cards everyone complains!


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post Dec 27 2012, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Dec 27 2012, 01:01 PM) *
But why force "progress"? It's not even progress, it's just how people talk..

Who's forcing?

QUOTE (motormad @ Dec 27 2012, 01:01 PM) *
If someone wants to say innovaytive or innovuhtive, who really cares...

The 'great unwashed' don't care. The well educated tend to. Like I said, society will not make progress if we degenerate the way we communicate. Colloquialism tends to come from migrants and the ill-educated or lazy. I don't think we should take our lead from those examples.

QUOTE (motormad @ Dec 27 2012, 01:01 PM) *
And yet if the Government wants to give you ID cards everyone complains!

I'm not sure I see your point here.
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post Dec 27 2012, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Dec 27 2012, 12:54 PM) *
Citroen 2CVs are for French farmers. I'd throw them both in the skip.

Oh my goodness we ARE on the ball today aren't we with all that wit.
Must be the Christmas spirit that has supercharged your brain!! wink.gif
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post Dec 27 2012, 02:24 PM
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And another thing - the way people mis-spell their names these days presumably to appear "trendy" or "look at me I'm different and defying convention".
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