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Anon2
Posted on: Oct 18 2009, 04:17 PM


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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 18 2009, 04:51 PM) *
So, according to this, you are saying it is illegal to be on possession of a knife you have just purchased legitimately and are transporting it home. Yet, in a previous post, it is held that it is quite OK for a Chef to take his knives from his place of employment and have them with him – on the basis that they are the personal tools of his trade. And we don’t live in a Police state! I would argue that actually it is quite legal in the first circumstance but if and only if the Police have good reason to suspect that the person with the knife might be about to do criminal acts. Frankly, having had some experience of the restaurant trade I’d be more suspicious of a chef in such circumstances. Would not be unreasonable for any restaurant to invest in a safe in which to keep knives on the premises – a suitable one is less than £30 from Tesco!



No I'm not saying it is illegal to be in possession of a knife you have just purchased, providing you have lawful authority or reasonable excuse to have it in your possession. As already mentioned, the Police would ascertain this by way of questioning.

A Police state was not mentioned by me.

You can argue the legalities of it in a court of law, I was just quoting the law on this.

I agree with the chef scenario, as stated this would be confirmed by questioning (that's what the Police do!!) However I have taken a stanley type knife from a 17 year old at 10pm on a friday eve who told me he was a decorator (he was and therefore had a reasonable excuse ) and that he had it on him due to this. However when I asked him what time he had finished work, he said 4pm. He also said he had been home already so he had the opportunity to leave it there, therefore the reasonable excuse vanished - result - confiscation of said knife.
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Posted on: Oct 18 2009, 02:12 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Oct 18 2009, 12:41 PM) *
I believe that if a knive has just been purchased - and you have a receipt to prove that - and it is in its wrapper/ including bag then you will not be punished by law.

Not actually the case. You would still need to prove either lawful authority or reasonable excuse to have a knife in your possession. Having said that it would be down to the Police Officer involved to decide on this in the first instance, by way of questioning.
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Posted on: Oct 18 2009, 09:22 AM


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I do think that an important point of law has been missed here. The knife concerned has a lockable blade. Therefore this is illegal, the length of the blade in this case is not the point (excuse the pun).
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Posted on: Sep 21 2009, 05:10 PM


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Having read this thread, I get a warm feeling when I hear that there are people out there still willing to stand up to anti social behaviour. It seems that Ches picked the right options after having considered the situation and she even mentions a 'risk assessment'.

Given those impact factors the best result was attained. Given a different set of impact factors then the outcome may well have been different, but Ches mentions that she would have done things differently if this had been so - Good on her I say wink.gif
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Posted on: Sep 14 2009, 06:23 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 14 2009, 06:50 PM) *
I agree... we've got to get tough.



My God, I find myself agreeing with you!! laugh.gif

Let's all remember the Courts pass the punishment down, the Police can only put the (alleged) offender before the court
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Posted on: Sep 14 2009, 06:21 PM


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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Sep 14 2009, 06:56 PM) *
It has been like this since 1984 when PACE was introduced.



Beats 'Judges rules' though wink.gif
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Posted on: Sep 14 2009, 05:54 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 14 2009, 06:53 PM) *
What do you do for a living? tongue.gif



We've had that conversation to death, haven't we? sad.gif Yes I know we've had other ones to death too......)
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Posted on: Sep 14 2009, 05:53 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 14 2009, 06:44 PM) *
He just called them 'epaulettes'.



If he said that, are you sure he wasn't referring to the piece of material on which the shoulder number is stitched????? wink.gif
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 14 2009, 06:46 PM) *
All I can say is what I was told they were called by real police officers. You only say you are police officers. Taking the pee won't change that. wink.gif



Well I suppose you do pay your taxes for us, don't you? laugh.gif
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Posted on: Sep 14 2009, 05:41 PM


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QUOTE (Iommi @ Sep 14 2009, 06:24 PM) *
Talk about w*nking something dry. rolleyes.gif


I know, but good fun all the same!!! laugh.gif Would he let anyone else off the hook I ask? wink.gif
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Posted on: Sep 14 2009, 05:17 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 14 2009, 11:13 AM) *
Of course it is called a shoulder number... I never said it wasn't called that. But it is also called the other as well.


And just in case that wasn't enough evidence for you....here's some more!!! http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/joinus/a...signia-officers

I know GMR will come back and say that they are called both 'shoulder' and 'epaulette' numbers and that he got this info from 'higher up the food chain' but PLEASE can he show any official referral to the second term? I think not. tongue.gif
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Posted on: Sep 13 2009, 08:11 AM


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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 13 2009, 12:28 AM) *
That's just about the daftest thing I have read on this forum. You are suggesting that no-one starts a topic unless they include a link to a positive news story about "the powers that be". It's ludicrous. I like you though Chesapeake, and I think your posts offer up something most of the time that makes me think a little about my own opinions so I hope you stick around. I agree with GMR though that are far worse forums around.


Just interested to know what you thought of the content of the article?
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Posted on: Sep 13 2009, 08:07 AM


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[quote name='Strafin' date='Sep 13 2009, 12:41 AM' post='8339']
Or "lazy". Too ill to work but raising a three year old? That doesn't add up to me. Sounds like off on extremely generous police/civil service package to me.
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If ever I saw an ignorant post, then that was it. There are lots of people raising children who cannot work due to ill health, it does happen you know. Also where do you get the 'police/civil service package' from, I haven't seen any mention of such a thing from Ches. Or is that an addition to your ignorance too?
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 10:17 PM


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QUOTE (Anon2 @ Sep 12 2009, 11:15 PM) *
Of course you knew it (but that is also unsubstantiated, isn't it?)

Well I was certainly informed when it came to the infamous'epaulette number' remark you made, that did make me and at least one other chuckle!! Little things like that show a degree of knowledge which those outside the job, like you, obviously do not have - therefore informed.

Not everyone has to state their profession but (I'm going to repeat myself again here, but with some emphasis) IT WAS RELEVANT AT THE TIME



Off up the wooden hill now so you'll have to find another user to 'debate' with (or use a mirror) tongue.gif
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 10:15 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 11:09 PM) *
I didn’t research it, I knew. wink.gif



I was talking about you saying you were a police officer. As for this thread; that was Chesapeake.



And how do we know it was an informed opinion? Are you saying that everybody who wishes to give an informed opinion must also state what they do to impress and strengthen what they said? That’s rubbish.

You do realise you are getting your money’s worth, don’t you? wink.gif

Next time I debate on politics I'll tell everybody I am a senior member of the government so people will know that what I said was an informed opinion wink.gif



Of course you knew it (but that is also unsubstantiated, isn't it?)

Well I was certainly informed when it came to the infamous'epaulette number' remark you made, that did make me and at least one other chuckle!! Little things like that show a degree of knowledge which those outside the job, like you, obviously do not have - therefore informed.

Not everyone has to state their profession but (I'm going to repeat myself again here, but with some emphasis) IT WAS RELEVANT AT THE TIME
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 10:01 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 10:57 PM) *
Did I say I didn’t know what it was? I said I never quoted it. It is the Intelligence Corps moto.



I am not bothered what anybody does on here... it was you who wished to tell everybody what you did. From my experience on forums I know that people come up with any rubbish just to impress the gullible and the weak; because it can’t be proven. If I said I was a doctor on here I would expect people to challenge me. It is easy to say what you want on here. I suggest to you that if you wish to keep your identity a secret then don’t go boasting what you can’t prove. It doesn’t impress anybody. So many people are easily taken in by such boasts and it is wrong.



True.... but I never started the whole thing off; you did. I’ve never claimed to be anything on here other than a forum writer (you have) unless I was prepared to back it up (which you won’t).

Just a matter of interest; why did you feel you need to tell everybody that you were a policeman? So that it would strengthen what you said?


Well researched re the motto!!!! Took you a while though.... wink.gif

Oh and I didn't start the whole thing off, I'm sure it was Chesapeake, yes I'm sure that's who started it.....

OK I will repeat myself, my profession and that of Ossy came out during a thread which required an informed opinion....Right that's sorted, move on
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 09:42 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 10:35 PM) *
Actually you should change the record as it was you who asked.

I didn't say 'knowledge gives strength to the arm' by the way.

I am not actually interested what you do, only that you volunteered the information to everybody on here and I just thought it should be authenticated otherwise it didn't mean anything other than a boast; an unsubstantiated boast. I haven't claimed to be anything... well that is not true. I claimed to be a member of NAG and a secretary of my local association. Both can be authenticated if you like.



GMR, I did not quote you on the 'knowledge gives strength to the arm', merely quoted a particular organisation's motto, thought you might have known that one.

If you are not interested in what I do, that's fine so you will now stop asking people for their personal details (doesn't matter who started it, you have asked and been told not to, feel like I'm repeating myself but I guess I will have to)

As for the 'boast', I don't consider it to be such a thing. I will repeat what I said earlier, your claim re your work is also unsubstantiated isn't it?
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 09:30 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 10:26 PM) *
Thanks for that contribution wink.gif



Just trying to help you along with this one, I'd hate to see this thread become irrelevant or rambling. I mean, what would be the point in that? laugh.gif
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 09:29 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 10:26 PM) *
That is true. But it was you who came up and volunteered what you did... i didn't. Did we really need to know you were a police officer? Knowing what I do won't help the debate along.

As for Ches asking precise details; ok... but I must also be allowed precise details about her as well. The same with you; if you want to know more I am quite happy to tell you; even in a PM, but the same must apply to you.

All's fair in love and debate. wink.gif



You did need to know at the time as 'knowledge gives strength to the arm', it was relevant at the time in that particular thread. And you know I won't PM you my details, you have been told that before (by me and other users) as well so move on, change the record tongue.gif
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 09:21 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 10:16 PM) *
And you are 'not to you either' what? wink.gif


Answerable - as per your earlier post. Come on, keep up!!
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 09:20 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 10:14 PM) *
What does that mean ‘gone to have gone to’?

First of all we don’t know if Anon is a police officer and he could easily be you. Secondly he seems to have jumped where you left off.



Law and police work is also too broad a term so please expand on your answer my friend, but I won’t go to bed. And seeing as our friend has jumped in on this debate maybe he would like to give a bit more.... if he is a different person to you, that is. Quid pro quo.

You can also answer me ‘without prejudice’ as well. Also; why do you want to know such precise details?


You are right, you don't know if I am a Police Officer and we don't know for sure that you do 'agency work' from home either, do we? And as for Ches asking for precise details I seem to remember you asking for the same of me in another thread....you can't have it both ways tongue.gif
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 09:10 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 09:57 PM) *
First of all this is between me and our friend. I am not answerable to you. What police work do you do? Where are you stationed? Quid-pro-quo.

Are you and Chesapeake the same person? did you forget to change over your user name?


And I am not to you either. And I thought forums were open to all and that this is what you enjoy, a little banter?? Suffice to say I do Police work in this Country and have done so for a number of years as per my earlier posts (still haven't heard the 'epaulette number' phrase in the job, but I wait with baited breath....) sad.gif
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 09:35 PM) *
At the moment I do agency work; which I do on my computer. Previous jobs I've worked in management and I also used to write for a sports magazine. anything else?

I get the time in between doing agency work on my computer. I've only been doing it for the last couple of months.... before that I was working in Reading and wasn't on the computer so much. Does that answer your question? wink.gif



No sorry not an acceptable answer, 'agency work' is too broad a term wink.gif
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Posted on: Sep 12 2009, 08:32 PM


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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 12 2009, 09:27 PM) *
Yes... I know. wink.gif


As he won't say what 'job' he does from home, maybe, just maybe, he doesn't 'do' anything. After all, by his own admision, he is a prolific poster on this and other forums, where does he get the time? Just an observation....... wink.gif
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[quote name='GMR' post='7892' date='Sep 6 2009, 08:32 PM']What ‘context’? The original information said she was just an ‘Escort’ and nothing more. And going by the other replies nobody connected her sort of Escort with ‘Hooking’. A man of the world wouldn’t being reading the sun, that would be left to others.

The context in which it was started! Exactly what kind of escort agency did you think it would be if it warranted that type of report on the BBC website?

The sun had been found wanting in the past and I don’t take much heed what they say.

You are entitled to that opinion, but she still resigned instead of fighting the allegations.....


Remember the video and photos in the mirror that maligned our troops a few years ago? That was revealing and ‘conclusive’; Peirs Morgan got the sack because of it as Editor.

Maybe this video and report as a whole will be proved to be a total fabrication and the allegations will be rescinded,she will take up her position with TVP again and nothing more will be said (except for the civil suit). Maybe not, time will tell. If it is proven to be correct and the allegations upheld, will you revisit this thread and make the appropriate comment? (I will IF it goes the other way)

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