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post Dec 5 2010, 08:53 PM
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Can we please split this forum from 2 to 3 categories?

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Richard Garvie's Political Rants.

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Richard Garvie
post Dec 5 2010, 09:05 PM
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On what basis?
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post Dec 5 2010, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 5 2010, 10:05 PM) *
On what basis?

That this forum has been virtually taken over by your own political ends and, as has been highlighted before here, that many do not want one persons political views to be injected into almost every topic.

By separating out your threads it gives those people a chance to avoid and, inherently, those who do wish to participate, a way of ensuring that they are directed to where they want to be.

I know it won't happen, but I was just trying to highlight that this is not the "Richard Garvie" forum.
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post Dec 5 2010, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 5 2010, 09:28 PM) *
That this forum has been virtually taken over by your own political ends and, as has been highlighted before, that many do not want one persons political views to be injected into almost every topic.

By separating out your threads it gives those people a chance to avoid and, inherently, those who do wish to participate, a way of ensuring that they are directed to where they want to be.

I know it won't happen, but I was just trying to highlight that this is not the "Richard Garvie" forum.
Not just this forum

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=109968362406940

This local radio DJ will jump on any bandwagon to help increase his fame it seems.

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post Dec 5 2010, 10:35 PM
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I think it's hilarious that I can't have a view on anything political because I am a member of the Labour Party, and I was once a radio presenter!!! User23 comments on more threads than I do, in fact I would say most members do. Just because I only really comment on things that matter to me, is that a bad thing?
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post Dec 5 2010, 11:14 PM
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Thing is Richard you are not having a discussion or a debate you are just bombarding the forum with your personal political views and have become very boring. I don't care if you're on here or not, all I know is that I ignore most of your posts now, I think you are a slimy and smarmy introvert and if you did ever stand for any kind of office I would not vote for you. It would seem that you are certainly rubbing more people up the wrong way than gaining allies.
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post Dec 5 2010, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 6 2010, 12:35 AM) *
I think it's hilarious that I can't have a view on anything political because I am a member of the Labour Party, and I was once a radio presenter!!! User23 comments on more threads than I do, in fact I would say most members do. Just because I only really comment on things that matter to me, is that a bad thing?

I didn't say you cannot have any views, far from it I was suggesting you have your own platform in order that those who wish to get involved can do so.

Not true in the last few months that most members comment more than you, and when they do comment it is generally their own thoughts and not for political campaigning ends.
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post Dec 5 2010, 11:58 PM
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Well, I'm sorry for speaking out on the issues that matter to me. But I'm not going to sit back and let certain people railroad change through in the district without at least exposing it. Where else has the LDF suspension been reported, besides a tiny piece in the Advertiser with no comment from the Tories (who are rushing it through) or any of the objectors? It's now suspended until May, after the local elections.

Tuition fees. Read Mr Benyons website or what he had put in the media. All lies. He won't answer questions from those who ask questions on the real issues such as debt, interest rates and the length of time it will take to pay off such debt. Why shouldn't the facts be made available on a LOCAL DISCUSSION forum.

Day Care centres. 150 sacked and five centres closed. Seriously disabled people may never leave there home again because there is no place for them to go with the facilities. Nobody else is suggesting an alternative, so should I just keep quiet too?

The council want to adopt the "strong leader" leadership model after a consultation that excluded one of only two available options. Nobody speaks out about it, so I brought it up.

Court closure. Our local MP vows to fight the court closure "like a terrier with a rat" then appears to do very little. So I challenge him on the subject and ask some colleagues to raise the issue in London on our behalf. All of a sudden, Benyon shows an interest again and claims to be moving mountains. If it has provoked him to do some more on this issue, then it's a result is it not?

And finally, affordable housing. Nobody would air my view that changes to the LDF were effectively removing affordable housing commitments at the racecourse. The council tried their best to suppress it from getting out by burying it withing "good news" stories when the media finally showed an interest. Then, when it was exposed on here, the Lib Dems, NTC and a few others started to make similar noises in public.

The only reason I got involved in local politics is because I am fed up of watching people make what I believe to be wrong decisions. Instead of complaining or throwing my rattle out of the pram, I'm trying to come up with answers, different ways of doing things and trying to help people who have been given the "West Berks Treatment". Numerous people have contacted me through this site, and hopefully all of them will vouch for me putting in a bit of effort trying to resolve their issue. Just because I've said I'm a member of the Labour Party, why does it make me any different from any of you? Maybe it's because I post under my real name whilst you all could be anyone. How do I know Biker1 isn't Alan Law and Straffin isn't Tony Vickers? Anyone can hide behind fake names and multiple accounts. The fact is I have the courage to stand up and say what I believe, and if you don't like me because of that, that's completely your decision.

EDIT: Can this thread be moved to random rants?
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post Dec 6 2010, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 5 2010, 11:58 PM) *
Well, I'm sorry for speaking out on the issues that matter to me. But I'm not going to sit back and...


And off he goes again. rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 5 2010, 08:53 PM) *
Can we please split this forum from 2 to 3 categories?

Newbury News

Random Rants

And

Richard Garvie's Political Rants.

Thanks.

Yes, great idea. This forum is being hijacked by a political activist whose sole intent is to preach a pro Labour, anti Tory messages. It is booring.


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post Dec 6 2010, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 6 2010, 01:58 AM) *
Maybe it's because I post under my real name whilst you all could be anyone. How do I know Biker1 isn't Alan Law and Straffin isn't Tony Vickers?

Who's Alan Law?
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 6 2010, 09:59 AM) *
Who's Alan Law?


What does it matter? All that matters is you could be Micky Mouse and nobody would Know!!! And it's not so much being anti Tory, is much more being anti chaos which we seem to have now.
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Dec 6 2010, 09:07 AM) *
Yes, great idea. This forum is being hijacked by a political activist whose sole intent is to preach a pro Labour, anti Tory messages. It is booring.


Reasons Never EVER to Vote Labour again.

1. Tony Blair.
2. Alistair Campbell
3. Gordon Brown.
4. Peter Mandelsson
5. Richard Garvie. laugh.gif



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post Dec 6 2010, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 6 2010, 12:09 PM) *
What does it matter? All that matters is you could be Micky Mouse and nobody would Know!!! And it's not so much being anti Tory, is much more being anti chaos which we seem to have now.

I wouldn't really mind people on this forum knowing who I am (although I am just a boring Newbury resident with nothing much to my name).
The reason I keep my identity hidden is mainly for my own personal security - i. e. I do not really want to broadcast my identity over the internet for all to see.
There was a move at one point to have a meeting which I would have been interested in as I would like to meet many of those who post on here.
Would probably make an interesting gathering!
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:29 AM
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I would suggest that very few would actually turn up for fear of "outing" themselves. I just think it is unfair to slate me on a completely pointless thread like this, because I pretty much only comment on political stories. So much for free speech, it's not like I'm lying about people or trying to say something is true when it's not.
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 6 2010, 10:19 AM) *
There was a move at one point to have a meeting which I would have been interested in as I would like to meet many of those who post on here.
Would probably make an interesting gathering!


I started that! But we felt it might be a disaster I think in the end...

To Richard - I think you have every right to be on here giving your views. Yes, you do go on a bit, wink.gif , but if people don't want to read it then they should ignore your comments - not start a post about you.
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 6 2010, 12:29 PM) *
, but if people don't want to read it then they should ignore your comments

Difficult.
I tried, but my failure to do so led to this post.

Yes, he does have the right to express his views but, because they are so extensive and persistent on the same subject, they may need their own category.

Made my point, in the interest of not boring folks, I'll leave it there.
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 5 2010, 08:53 PM) *
Can we please split this forum from 2 to 3 categories?

Newbury News

Random Rants

And

Richard Garvie's Political Rants.

Thanks.



QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 5 2010, 09:28 PM) *
That this forum has been virtually taken over by your own political ends and, as has been highlighted before here, that many do not want one persons political views to be injected into almost every topic.

By separating out your threads it gives those people a chance to avoid and, inherently, those who do wish to participate, a way of ensuring that they are directed to where they want to be.

I know it won't happen, but I was just trying to highlight that this is not the "Richard Garvie" forum.



QUOTE (Strafin @ Dec 5 2010, 11:14 PM) *
Thing is Richard you are not having a discussion or a debate you are just bombarding the forum with your personal political views and have become very boring. I don't care if you're on here or not, all I know is that I ignore most of your posts now, I think you are a slimy and smarmy introvert and if you did ever stand for any kind of office I would not vote for you. It would seem that you are certainly rubbing more people up the wrong way than gaining allies.



QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 5 2010, 11:14 PM) *
I didn't say you cannot have any views, far from it I was suggesting you have your own platform in order that those who wish to get involved can do so.

Not true in the last few months that most members comment more than you, and when they do comment it is generally their own thoughts and not for political campaigning ends.



QUOTE (Bloggo @ Dec 6 2010, 09:07 AM) *
Yes, great idea. This forum is being hijacked by a political activist whose sole intent is to preach a pro Labour, anti Tory messages. It is booring.



QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 6 2010, 10:11 AM) *
Reasons Never EVER to Vote Labour again.

1. Tony Blair.
2. Alistair Campbell
3. Gordon Brown.
4. Peter Mandelsson
5. Richard Garvie. laugh.gif


Hear, hear!!!!!

I was going to add something similar myself but didn't really know how to put it so succinctly. I have found that nearly every post that Mr Garvie makes has a political message from him. If I was feeling politically suicidal and wanted to be preached to I would arrange a meeting with him! What I do NOT want is for my life to be invaded by his views when I am just trying to GENTLY interact with people on this forum who I feel have very interesting viewpoints on matters that concern me in my local community. angry.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:42 AM
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Most important T&C's of this forum:

5. You warrant agree and undertake that:
(a) you will not post any material which is obscene, defamatory, or which otherwise is in breach of the law or in breach of the rights of any third party;
(b)you will not post any material which is or is likely to be in any way offensive, insulting, threatening or upsetting to other users;

I genuinely believe that all of my posts conform with the T&C's on the basis that my comments are made on things that have actually happened. This thread is simply a bashing thread about me because you don't agree with my choice of politics.
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 6 2010, 10:42 AM) *
Most important T&C's of this forum:

5. You warrant agree and undertake that:
(a) you will not post any material which is obscene, defamatory, or which otherwise is in breach of the law or in breach of the rights of any third party;
(b)you will not post any material which is or is likely to be in any way offensive, insulting, threatening or upsetting to other users;

I genuinely believe that all of my posts conform with the T&C's on the basis that my comments are made on things that have actually happened. This thread is simply a bashing thread about me because you don't agree with my choice of politics.

Whether we agree or disagree with you choice of politics is not the point being aired here as well you know (more spin). It's that we other forum users don't want it continually shoved down our throats at every opportunity


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