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post Aug 3 2017, 11:16 PM
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https://youtu.be/DLCCzLQ4V8E
Makes you wonder.
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post Aug 5 2017, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 4 2017, 12:16 AM) *

There's a feeling I get when I look to the west....
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post Aug 5 2017, 01:18 PM
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I got the impression that the the narrator was sympathetic to the ignominious end of such a magnificent life even though it was 70 years ago and the planet's resources were still being harvested in the belief they were boundless .

All the same it was a fascinating documentary , especially the skill , if not the fool hardy nature , of the lumberjack. To not only climb up the tree but to take out the top with an axe would send the present health and safety brigade into a state of apoplexy .


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post Aug 5 2017, 07:04 PM
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Mind we've no room to gloat, didn't we do the same to England's old and massive oaks to build Nelson's navy?


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post Aug 5 2017, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 5 2017, 08:04 PM) *
Mind we've no room to gloat, didn't we do the same to England's old and massive oaks to build Nelson's navy?

Back when Britain was 'Great'?
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post Aug 6 2017, 08:21 AM
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As they say ," you only miss it when it's gone ".

Fast forward a few decades and we will be watching footage of oil well beam pumps and expressing the same views.


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post Aug 6 2017, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 5 2017, 11:41 AM) *
There's a feeling I get when I look to the west....

Same here!! sad.gif
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post Aug 6 2017, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 5 2017, 08:04 PM) *
Mind we've no room to gloat, didn't we do the same to England's old and massive oaks to build Nelson's navy?

Not really, most of the oaks for ship building came from forests planted for that purpose and were replaced to provide more in a few decades time. We've lost a lot of woodland since wooden ships went out of fashion.
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post Aug 7 2017, 06:10 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Aug 6 2017, 09:43 AM) *
Not really, most of the oaks for ship building came from forests planted for that purpose and were replaced to provide more in a few decades time. We've lost a lot of woodland since wooden ships went out of fashion.


A romantic myth, quick trip to Portsmouth and a chat with the lads in the dockyard might help.


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post Aug 7 2017, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 7 2017, 07:10 AM) *
A romantic myth, quick trip to Portsmouth and a chat with the lads in the dockyard might help.

Timber was a key resource, for housing as well as boatbuilding, of course it was farmed. Admitttedly there was also a steady deforestation, but not because of the greed for timber, but because of a more general greed - the land could be used more profitably growing a different crop. This process continues today - woodland and hedgerows cleared to make way for ever larger machinery to work ever bigger arable fields.
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post Aug 8 2017, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Aug 6 2017, 09:43 AM) *
Not really, most of the oaks for ship building came from forests planted for that purpose and were replaced to provide more in a few decades time. We've lost a lot of woodland since wooden ships went out of fashion.

I don't think that's entirely right. Forests have been managed for at least a thousand years, but as I understand it trees weren't planted as such, it was more a case of managing what just happened to grow, and it wasn't until the Napoleonic wars and cruk oak was desparately scarce that woodland was planted as such.


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