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post Jul 19 2017, 11:45 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40653383

Now we all knew that these over paid non entities existed but bloody **** how on earth is this sort of money justified ? Little wonder those on low incomes feel kicked in the goolies . Most of them are journalists who sit there reading an auto queue , which admittedly they have prepared earlier, but would the content be any less so if a provincial hack had done it ?

Maybe we should withhold our licence contributions, or donate to a cause more worthy than the pocket of the privileged few. angry.gif


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post Jul 19 2017, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jul 19 2017, 12:45 PM) *
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40653383

Now we all knew that these over paid non entities existed but bloody **** how on earth is this sort of money justified ? Little wonder those on low incomes feel kicked in the goolies . Most of them are journalists who sit there reading an auto queue , which admittedly they have prepared earlier, but would the content be any less so if a provincial hack had done it ?

Maybe we should withhold our licence contributions, or donate to a cause more worthy than the pocket of the privileged few. angry.gif


A £1.1bn deal between the BBC and Sky for 10 Twenty20 games seems better value for money. Of course the Sky Presenters pay will be a lot more than the BBC
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post Jul 19 2017, 01:51 PM
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Lineker also raking in huge sums for his Walker's Crisps ads too;
reason I have boycotted that brand for years.
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No doubt he's paying for expert tax avoidance advice too.
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post Jul 19 2017, 03:44 PM
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I have just noted that my original rant has fallen foul of the censor . Now I am sure there are certain words not used in polite society or on on this forum, but a four letter word for the habitat of the anti christ is hardly warrants removal especial when used as an interjection of disbelief rather than a crude expletive.........or does it ?

From now on I shall use the euphemism Hades house .... rolleyes.gif


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post Jul 19 2017, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jul 19 2017, 04:44 PM) *
I have just noted that my original rant has fallen foul of the censor . Now I am sure there are certain words not used in polite society or on on this forum, but a four letter word for the habitat of the anti christ is hardly warrants removal especial when used as an interjection of disbelief rather than a crude expletive.........or does it ?

From now on I shall use the euphemism Hades house .... rolleyes.gif


Shocking discrimination. How will Devil worshippers feel? I may lodge a complaint.
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post Jul 19 2017, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Jul 19 2017, 02:51 PM) *
Lineker also raking in huge sums for his Walker's Crisps ads too;
reason I have boycotted that brand for years.
Smug git laugh.gif

No doubt he's paying for expert tax avoidance advice too.


Worst kind of champagne socialist. Do as I say. Not as I do. Can't stand the buffoon.
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post Jul 19 2017, 04:54 PM
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And yet people get paid an order of magnitude more just to kick a ball round a pitch, and no-one complains. Weird.


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post Jul 19 2017, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jul 19 2017, 05:54 PM) *
And yet people get paid an order of magnitude more just to kick a ball round a pitch, and no-one complains. Weird.


I do ! Most of them don't even break sweat and yet they are portrayed as the perfect roll model for our youngsters . Not sure how much a hospital surgeon earns but to my mind anyone who uses their skill to save lives should be at or near the top of the earnings tree.


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post Jul 20 2017, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 19 2017, 05:33 PM) *
Worst kind of champagne socialist. Do as I say. Not as I do. Can't stand the buffoon.

Totally agree but wait!.................
CHRIS EVANS!!!! ohmy.gif
This loud mouthed, ignorant, spoilt **** replaced the late, great Terry Wogan on the R2 morning slot! angry.gif
Whatever his salary was he was worth a hundred of the ginger tosser!
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post Jul 20 2017, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 20 2017, 09:40 AM) *
Totally agree but wait!.................
CHRIS EVANS!!!! ohmy.gif
This loud mouthed, ignorant, spoilt **** replaced the late, great Terry Wogan on the R2 morning slot! angry.gif
Whatever his salary was he was worth a hundred of the ginger tosser!


Bit harsh old chap wink.gif Just goes to show that ability has very little to do with success, more a case of being in the right place at the right time. A generation ago he would probably be just another " wanna be " with no sign of achieving .

Having said that, he is earning a couple of million / year and we are not, ( well I'm not anyway ).


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post Jul 20 2017, 06:41 PM
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Arguably, the real blame lies with the similarly overpaid and demonstrably incompetent BBC executives who agreed to pay these sums. There is a very simple answer to people who demand money by threatening to go; just let them.


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post Jul 20 2017, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 20 2017, 07:41 PM) *
Arguably, the real blame lies with the similarly overpaid and demonstrably incompetent BBC executives who agreed to pay these sums. There is a very simple answer to people who demand money by threatening to go; just let them.


Indeed. You cannot actually blame Evans and Linekar. If the eejits at the BBC pay these oiks this sort of money whilst Fiona Bruce gets a measily 200k in comparison then they need replacing. And thats based on talent. No more. No less. Bruce. Multi program multi faceted presenter.. Linekar. Football, Twitter, Underpants and Crisps.... rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 20 2017, 06:41 PM) *
Arguably, the real blame lies with the similarly overpaid and demonstrably incompetent BBC executives who agreed to pay these sums. There is a very simple answer to people who demand money by threatening to go; just let them.

To other media outlets. Who will pay. And we end up with the dross. Still, off now for my three weeks in the Maldives. Have fun everyone, and play nice!


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post Jul 21 2017, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jul 20 2017, 10:22 PM) *
To other media outlets. Who will pay. And we end up with the dross. Still, off now for my three weeks in the Maldives. Have fun everyone, and play nice!


Like the dross we have now you mean?

Do we actually need a public services broadcaster that has created a heavily subsidised popular entertainment business? The existing commercial services are more than able to provide the stuff the BBC does and would do so better and cheaper. Basic 'O' level economics.

(Have a nice time in the Maldives, shame its only three weeks though and doesn't include connectivity!)


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post Jul 21 2017, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jul 20 2017, 10:22 PM) *
To other media outlets. Who will pay. And we end up with the dross. Still, off now for my three weeks in the Maldives. Have fun everyone, and play nice!

Yeah, have a good time while it lasts and sod the environment eh?? tongue.gif
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post Jul 21 2017, 08:13 AM
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The licence fee is worth it if only to avoid the sunami of adverts on other live channels.
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post Jul 21 2017, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 21 2017, 09:13 AM) *
The licence fee is worth it if only to avoid the sunami of adverts on other live channels.


I'd agree that a compulsory tax would be worth it if it provided a truly disinterested news channel and perhaps a showcase for dramatic art not commercially viable. Ironically, the BBC does promote itself with heavy advertising and it's not immune to product placement - particularly when it covers commercial sport. Advertising can easily be controlled on commercial channels through their own licences.

Programme interruptions aren't the only way to advertise. For what it should provide, the TV licence fee is too far high arguably because of the excessive greed of the managers and 'talent'. That in itself is damaging and dangerous to society; suggesting that the best and fastest way to make money and at the same time exert influence is to get yourself into a public funded monopoly.


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post Jul 21 2017, 10:54 AM
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I like the adverts. Half the time I haven't a clue what they are trying to market but who cares , least if you fall asleep you know it is going to be repeated in 10 minutes time.
Bet the actors in the "famous grouse" ad don't get paid much, but it well worth sitting up late to watch . wink.gif


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post Jul 21 2017, 11:08 AM
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Advertising has ceased to be such a pain since the advent of a Sky box in my home - I rarely watch commercial TV channels live these days and find it easy to fast forward through the ads. Even when watching live I will often pause to make a cup of coffee, answer the phone, etc which then allows me to skip the ads for the rest of the programme.

The thing that struck me about the limited list I saw was the number of radio DJs among the higher earners - to me these are the idiots who interrupt the music, but they seem to be highly valued by the Beeb.

The other thing that struck me was how few of them I would even consider switching on to watch/hear if it was not for the job they are doing - I may want to watch the news, but I don't really care who is reading it and I love Mastermind, but could readily cope with a change of question master.
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post Jul 21 2017, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jul 21 2017, 12:08 PM) *
Advertising has ceased to be such a pain since the advent of a Sky box in my home - I rarely watch commercial TV channels live these days and find it easy to fast forward through the ads. Even when watching live I will often pause to make a cup of coffee, answer the phone, etc which then allows me to skip the ads for the rest of the programme.


For me, adverts have never been a bigger nuicence.
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