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post Aug 26 2017, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 26 2017, 10:10 AM) *
Now this really is 'old news', when the car industry started to develop robotics for spot welding and for use in spray processes we were all told it was the end of the world, 'in twenty years the only people working will be the ones pushing buttons' was the universal wail! Unemployment has dropped since then, only the feckless, lazy dinosaur types got left behind. The rest of the world adapted.


Actually, the cry at the time was that the age of blue collar jobs was over and we'd have to get used to white collar 'brain work'. And, further, nuts and bolts jobs would be left to developing economies. Ironically, it was this threat that lead to the 50% of our kids should go to university an even more cruel irony is that we still assemble cars, but don't do the brain work. Even so, why haven't we fully automated the production lines for i.c.e. vehicles? Simply it costs time and money and with electric vehicles of a radically different design shortly coming on stream, the business case just doesn't stack up. Yes, the emerging world is adapting and you are right, like the dinosaur, we face extinction.


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post Aug 26 2017, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 26 2017, 10:04 AM) *
Funny that, watched it last night, good report on TV, strange organic lump in the driving seat using the controls was a bit odd, but ah yes, realised it was a driver! I know rather more about semi autonomous vehicles than you do my old China.


You are right, I didn't see the news report on TV last night, so, yes, that must mean you know much more than I do. Please don't tell anyone or the cheques will stop coming!


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post Aug 26 2017, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Aug 26 2017, 12:17 PM) *
Unemployment has dropped - but I wonder how much of this is down to government employment subsidies (tax credits) which make it easier for people to work part time. The figures are, to some extent, misleading - I wonder what they would look like if they converted the number of jobs to the number of full-time equivalents.


You aren't supposed to have noticed that! laugh.gif


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post Sep 7 2017, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 26 2017, 10:13 PM) *
You are right, I didn't see the news report on TV last night, so, yes, that must mean you know much more than I do. Please don't tell anyone or the cheques will stop coming!

Dont worry, most people know much more than you do. Still. tongue.gif
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post Sep 9 2017, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 26 2017, 10:10 AM) *
Now this really is 'old news', when the car industry started to develop robotics for spot welding and for use in spray processes we were all told it was the end of the world, 'in twenty years the only people working will be the ones pushing buttons' was the universal wail! Unemployment has dropped since then, only the feckless, lazy dinosaur types got left behind. The rest of the world adapted.


If you are deeply interested this is a reasonable one:-
https://www.cenex-lcv.co.uk/news-media/pres...cv2017-seminars
As usual, particularly if you can get along to the fringe, or get some of the more advanced exhibitors on their own.


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post Sep 9 2017, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 9 2017, 09:26 AM) *
If you are deeply interested this is a reasonable one:-
https://www.cenex-lcv.co.uk/news-media/pres...cv2017-seminars
As usual, particularly if you can get along to the fringe, or get some of the more advanced exhibitors on their own.

Thanks but I'll give it a miss, be full of people trying to sell unworkable EV's rather than look for fresh solutions. And as for low emissions Motorsports! Give me strength! Workable autonomous systems will require a full overhaul of Britains road network, and there's neither the will not the money to do that. Might work in the city but not West berks.
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post Sep 9 2017, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 9 2017, 06:06 PM) *
Thanks but I'll give it a miss, be full of people trying to sell unworkable EV's rather than look for fresh solutions. And as for low emissions Motorsports! Give me strength! Workable autonomous systems will require a full overhaul of Britains road network, and there's neither the will not the money to do that. Might work in the city but not West berks.


A pity; nonetheless there are workable autonomous systems already, albeit as far as public highways are concerned in beta testing. West Berkshire's road network will not prresent any problem not already encountered elsewhere.


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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 9 2017, 08:08 PM) *
A pity; nonetheless there are workable autonomous systems already, albeit as far as public highways are concerned in beta testing. West Berkshire's road network will not prresent any problem not already encountered elsewhere.

Semi autonomous, semi autonomous. Do you know how these systems work?
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 9 2017, 10:49 PM) *
Semi autonomous, semi autonomous. Do you know how these systems work?


Yes, I know exactly how they they work. However I suspect we are at cross purposes talking about different levels indeed types of technology. Semi autonomous is what we have today and in fairly common use. Autonomous is the future. In old terms, a bit like the difference between computing as data processing and as information technology; those heavily immersed in Data Processing found the potential and emergence of Information Technology very difficult to deal with.


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