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SirWilliam
post Jul 17 2017, 01:03 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40628037

Now there are good ideas, there are bad ideas , there are silly ideas and there are downright stupid ideas, and this must surely fit very comfortably in the bloody stupid category .
Not so long ago some barmpot thought it a wheeze to bring the Red Kite back. Now the skies are full of them all circling round trying to find a meal. If you are going to encourage a top predator then make sure there is enough for them to eat without putting domestic animals at risk.
The Eurasian Lynx is a pretty big animal to have wondering about at the bottom of your garden, ( adult males can reach 100lb) , and I for one, would not like to confront it without a 12 bore under my arm.

Vaguely recollect someone wanted to introduce the wolf and the bear back into the Highlands a few years back. Thankfully this fell by the way but this proposal is in an English county so we can't even cite the independence excuse.


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post Jul 17 2017, 01:20 PM
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They aren't predators. biggrin.gif

They are carrion feeders.
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post Jul 17 2017, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jul 17 2017, 02:20 PM) *
They aren't predators. biggrin.gif

They are carrion feeders.

Try telling that to the farmers. Kites prefer carrion as they are not the most agile of birds but food is food and anyway when was the last time you saw a dead rabbit? The Lynx on the other hand prefer their meat fresh and I for one have no intention of being on the menu. wink.gif


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post Jul 17 2017, 06:14 PM
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I understand the risk to humans from Lynx introduction is small, especially when compared to domestic dogs.
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post Jul 17 2017, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 17 2017, 07:14 PM) *
I understand the risk to humans from Lynx introduction is small, especially when compared to domestic dogs.


Lions. I want Lions. Used to roam about these parts millions of years ago.
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post Jul 17 2017, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 17 2017, 07:14 PM) *
I understand the risk to humans from Lynx introduction is small, especially when compared to domestic dogs.


Don't get me going on dogs!!!!!
They generate enough **** every year to cover an area the size of Buckinghamshire. Not to mention the number of kids. pensioners, postmen and others that get bitten by the wretched things.Grrrrrrr angry.gif


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post Jul 17 2017, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 17 2017, 07:20 PM) *
Lions. I want Lions. Used to roam about these parts millions of years ago.


Thought they did quite well in New Zealand the other day.


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post Jul 17 2017, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jul 17 2017, 07:17 PM) *
Don't get me going on dogs!!!!!
They generate enough **** every year to cover an area the size of Buckinghamshire. Not to mention the number of kids. pensioners, postmen and others that get bitten by the wretched things.Grrrrrrr angry.gif

Not to mention the carnage when some daft bugger takes them for a walk without a leash through a flock of sheep! Shoot the sods! And their dogs!


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post Jul 18 2017, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jul 17 2017, 09:47 PM) *
Not to mention the carnage when some daft bugger takes them for a walk without a leash through a flock of sheep! Shoot the sods! And their dogs!


Well the former anyway. Dogs are wolves and wolves hunt. How many times has some dumb cluck uttered the immortal words " he's never bitten us " after they have pulled it off a child. Least the Koreans eat theirs.


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post Jul 18 2017, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jul 18 2017, 11:27 AM) *
Well the former anyway. Dogs are wolves and wolves hunt. How many times has some dumb cluck uttered the immortal words " he's never bitten us " after they have pulled it off a child. Least the Koreans eat theirs.

"He's just an old snuzzle puppy, aren't you Mr wiggles". He just likes to play with them. It's not his fault!". Give em a good dose of Mr Eleys finest.


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post Jul 18 2017, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jul 18 2017, 12:27 PM) *
Well the former anyway. Dogs are wolves and wolves hunt. How many times has some dumb cluck uttered the immortal words " he's never bitten us " after they have pulled it off a child. Least the Koreans eat theirs.


Nothing like as dangerous as people.
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post Jul 18 2017, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jul 18 2017, 08:54 PM) *
Nothing like as dangerous as people.


Correct. Though I'd still rather take on 1 guy than a pack of dogs. But then I have a phobia having been attacked before by an Alsatian Cross breed off the leash. I admit I cross the road if I see a staffy off the lead approaching.

Then again some dogs are lovely. Bit like people really. Some wrong uns... Especially if brought up in the wrong environment.
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post Jul 19 2017, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 18 2017, 10:42 PM) *
Correct. Though I'd still rather take on 1 guy than a pack of dogs. But then I have a phobia having been attacked before by an Alsatian Cross breed off the leash. I admit I cross the road if I see a staffy off the lead approaching.

Then again some dogs are lovely. Bit like people really. Some wrong uns... Especially if brought up in the wrong environment.


Exactly. Pack animals need a leader and in most cases they see their owner in that light. Unfortunately many breeds need a great deal of the correct discipline in order to be controllable . Because of the vast numbers of dogs roaming around , whether on a lead or feral , it has the effect of concentrating their pack mindset. I have no problem with Aunty Ethel, ( other Aunts are available ) ,having a little pooch to keep her company nor those who require dogs for work, but why oh why have a dog and leave him shut in the house all day while you are at work ?

Maybe the introduction of a few big cat species may be a positive in the control of numbers, ( of both elements ) ?


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post Jul 19 2017, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jul 18 2017, 05:26 PM) *
"He's just an old snuzzle puppy, aren't you Mr wiggles". He just likes to play with them. It's not his fault!". Give em a good dose of Mr Eleys finest.


And of course, a farmer is perfectly within his rights to shoot a dog that is worrying sheep...
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post Jul 19 2017, 04:39 PM
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I wouldn't trust a Staffie with another animal - but, in my experience, they are about the most human friendly breed there is - unless trained otherwise. The problem with a number of breeds is the type of owner they attract.
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post Jul 20 2017, 12:06 PM
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I have always likened owning a pet to having a child. Most owners / parents are responsible and caring but a percentage should never be allowed to have either .
Maybe we should have a licencing system for both ?


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post Jul 20 2017, 06:37 PM
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I wonder if we could get some funding to bring back other long lost natural things? Bubonic plauge, rabies etc. which might actually help with some of the other issues mentioned on this thread.


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post Jul 20 2017, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 20 2017, 06:37 PM) *
I wonder if we could get some funding to bring back other long lost things? Bubonic plauge, rabies, the labour party etc.

Fixxored.


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post Jul 21 2017, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jul 20 2017, 11:10 PM) *
Fixxored.


Not a lot of point old son; someone has already brought it back. So for you, demonstrating even more just how dangerous such ideas are!!!!


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post Jul 21 2017, 10:44 AM
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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j...P5mw_2vjuR159mw

So now we know the thought process behind the original posting. Obviously the consensus being that with EU exit imminent and third world status inevitable, the need to attract overseas tourism becomes increasingly important.
What better incentive than to offer the chance to hunt and kill a large ***** cat , and I assume , stick it's head on a plank of wood and return triumphant to your urban des res .

Now one can argue to the point of exhaustion as to why, but money is money and this will give gainful employment to all those redundant bankers (sic) who need to diversify their income.

So there you are all you EU re-moaners , the answer is Felidae .

See the censor doesn't like cats either tongue.gif


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