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Andy Capp
post Jun 28 2017, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 28 2017, 10:02 AM) *
Ignorance is forgivable, the inability to learn from that position less so.

It is a human trait, but it depends on whether the issue is properly understood. It sometimes takes more than one go. You can take a horse to water but it won't always drink!
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post Jun 28 2017, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 28 2017, 10:35 AM) *
It is a human trait, but it depends on whether the issue is properly understood. It sometimes takes more than one go. You can take a horse to water but it won't always drink!


But it undoubtedly will kick you/ run off or some other unforeseen action. Do we address each scenario from a point of complete ignorance and so have no preconceptions of what is the "correct" response, or go into with all the baggage that life has bestowed on us but in turn shapes our outlook?


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post Jun 28 2017, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 28 2017, 11:42 AM) *
But it undoubtedly will kick you/ run off or some other unforeseen action. Do we address each scenario from a point of complete ignorance and so have no preconceptions of what is the "correct" response, or go into with all the baggage that life has bestowed on us but in turn shapes our outlook?

Sorry, you've lost me there; I don't know what you are trying to say.
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post Jun 28 2017, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 28 2017, 12:28 PM) *
Sorry, you've lost me there; I don't know what you are trying to say.


Nothing new there. wink.gif What i was trying to portray, albeit badly, was that we all have views on most subjects and our response is coloured by those inherent values, but sometimes that knowledge can be interpreted by others as being subjective.

There again it could be that I am entering that fantasy world of lostus plotus . laugh.gif


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post Jun 28 2017, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 28 2017, 01:20 PM) *
Nothing new there. wink.gif What i was trying to portray, albeit badly, was that we all have views on most subjects and our response is coloured by those inherent values, but sometimes that knowledge can be interpreted by others as being subjective.

It is one of the challenges we all face and I believe is a result of our relatively sophisticated method of communication and vivid imagination. Look at the potential for a mistake: we dont always accurately see or hear things, we don't always accurately remember things, we don't always accurately say or describe things and on it cycles, but to get on in life we have to get things done, so we will often interpret information we receive rather than to stop and check everything.
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post Jun 29 2017, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 28 2017, 01:54 PM) *
It is one of the challenges we all face and I believe is a result of our relatively sophisticated method of communication and vivid imagination. Look at the potential for a mistake: we dont always accurately see or hear things, we don't always accurately remember things, we don't always accurately say or describe things and on it cycles, but to get on in life we have to get things done, so we will often interpret information we receive rather than to stop and check everything.



I guess that has a lot to do with our complicated lives. I remember a little while back some trick cyclist forwarded the hypothesis that those who read quickly are more likely to interpret the content in a positive light whereas those who digested every word would be more likely to question the subject. Pretty obvious I know but it does prove your point that no two people will interpret the information in front of them in the same way.

Thus is the beauty of debating. cool.gif


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