Proposals for smoking ban, Pub beer gardens, other various public gaterhing locations Options

[NWNREADER]

Perhaps the definition should be to allow consumption of drugs where anybody around would be in full consent. i.e. stations are unlikely cos people hate going to work stinking of smoke; but private clubs that are pro-dugs could be labeled as such. There would have to be exclusions such as children, vulnerable, and health etc as well as input from the community.

Please clarify what you mean....... 'pro-drug private clubs'? 'Allow consumption of drugs where anyone around would be in full consent'?

[Strafin]

So how slow do you walk to accumulate a stink?

It takes about five seconds. I notice it on my staff, obviously the ones who smoke smell anyway, but he ones who pop out sometimes at the same time pick it up really easily. Not personal, all smokers smell. On the other hand they pay a lot of tax.

[Adrian Hollister]

Please clarify what you mean....... 'pro-drug private clubs'? 'Allow consumption of drugs where anyone around would be in full consent'?

We have examples of these already with alcohol being served in places where people choose to consume it and it's not acceptable to consume it on the streets or on the train.

By making most places smoke free we are changing the way society looks on drugs - it's no longer something generally promoted by society but people are still legally allowed to consume the drug. It's a good compromise that I would extend slightly by allowing single drug private clubs (consenting clubs). I would also place further safeguards than there are today, for example, bar it from any where near children (even at home), the vulnerable etc.

[NWNREADER]

We have examples of these already with alcohol being served in places where people choose to consume it and it's not acceptable to consume it on the streets or on the train.

By making most places smoke free we are changing the way society looks on drugs - it's no longer something generally promoted by society but people are still legally allowed to consume the drug. It's a good compromise that I would extend slightly by allowing single drug private clubs (consenting clubs). I would also place further safeguards than there are today, for example, bar it from any where near children (even at home), the vulnerable etc.

So why not say 'smoking clubs'?
I do not disagree nicotine is a drug of sorts, but you will confuse simple readers by firing a howitzer and implying 'Drug Clubs' etc......... Even the Dutch are regretting their Coffee Shop legislation.

[Adrian Hollister]

So why not say 'smoking clubs'?
I do not disagree nicotine is a drug of sorts, but you will confuse simple readers by firing a howitzer and implying 'Drug Clubs' etc......... Even the Dutch are regretting their Coffee Shop legislation.

Focus on a single drug source like smoking promotes a very emotional response - love or hate, there is little compromise. Thinking of this as a generic drug issue helps me to take a pragmatic view and to look to see if there is a common thread and approach that can be used with each of our drug consuming practices.

[JeffG]

I do not disagree nicotine is a drug of sorts

No "of sorts" about it. Many studies have shown that it's more addictive than heroin.

[Adrian Hollister]

No "of sorts" about it. Many studies have shown that it's more addictive than heroin.

I laughed when my farther in law said he was going for a smoke. I asked why, does he need to get high, and his response was, no I need to smoke to stay normal. Is that the response of anyone other than an addict?

[NWNREADER]

No "of sorts" about it. Many studies have shown that it's more addictive than heroin.

I agree, but I would prefer a distinction between smoking and the drugs we colloquially talk about. Being 'anti-smoking' creates a different response to being anti-drugs. That from one who does know just a bit about the subject......

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I agree, but I would prefer a distinction between smoking and the drugs we colloquially talk about. Being 'anti-smoking' creates a different response to being anti-drugs. That from one who does know just a bit about the subject......

Cars and Lorries are smelly and pollute. Lets ban them.

[Turin Machine]

Smoking has become as antisocial a drink driving, it costs society billions in lost production as well as health care every year, yet, I do feel that if someone wishes to purue the habit and is willing to do so insuch a manner as not to discomfort others then I have to say, why not ? Cancer and poverty wil stamp it out in the end, I can wait.

Achohol is a more perfidious and destructive evil in my opinion anyway.

[Simon Kirby]

It takes about five seconds. I notice it on my staff.

Erm, oh nothing.

[Turin Machine]

ROFLMAO

[NWNREADER]

Had it been a full stop I too would have quivered an eyebrow. However, it was a comma and the remainder of the sentence made clear he was talking about employees/minions.......
I am just amazed they are allowed away from the looms at all, let alone for a smoke. Especially as children should not be smoking at all....

[Strafin]

Had it been a full stop I too would have quivered an eyebrow. However, it was a comma and the remainder of the sentence made clear he was talking about employees/minions.......
I am just amazed they are allowed away from the looms at all, let alone for a smoke. Especially as children should not be smoking at all....

The ones who smoke take an hours more break than the ones who don't every day, so son't worry about them too much. And they (as all smokers do) claim that they only pop out for a minute, don't take other breaks, and work better when they have had a fag. Someone mentioned a smokers only pub earlier in the thread, I am all for segregation, if there was a place for smokers only, I would applaud it, but how many people would actually stick to it?

[Turin Machine]

Can I stick my head above the parapet and say I actually preffered the smell of pubs when there was smoking, seemed appropriate somehow, now all I smell is greasy food stale beer and sweat, not nice and I keep telling the wife she should smarten herself up as well.

[Strafin]

Farts too.

[Turin Machine]

No, she doesn't !

[Vodabury]

I am just amazed they are allowed away from the looms at all, let alone for a smoke. Especially as children should not be smoking at all....

Brilliant. Thank you for making me laugh so much.

[Strafin]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21...e-backyard.html

These guys have got the right idea....

[Jayjay]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21...e-backyard.html

These guys have got the right idea....

So California wants to ban smoking outdoors. The same American state that, when it went to the polls, 56% of citizens voted for legalising drugs. You couldn't make it up.