Hydrogen Fuel Supplies? Options

[Blake]

As part of my overall commitment to reducing my carbon footprint and moving evermore toward living sustainably, I am looking to buy a hydrogen-powered car like a Toyota Mirai.

Does anyone know any gas stations in West Berkshire that currently supply hydrogen to the consumer?

[JeffG]

..and the first super/subscript 2 shouldn't be there. Hydrogen exists as single molecules

4H + O2 = 2H2O

Since when? (And a single atom isn't a molecule.)

Or use a diesel.

And kill people as well as damaging the environment?

[Andy Capp]

Since when? (And a single atom isn't a molecule.)

I read that Hydrogen gas (H2) is a molecule.

And kill people as well as damaging the environment?

Diesel has a smaller carbon footprint than Hydrogen and petrol cars (but has other hazardous waste of course).

[JeffG]

I read that Hydrogen gas (H2) is a molecule.

Yes it is. It's two atoms bonded together as a molecule. I was just saying that a single atom isn't a molecule (which is what BerkshireLad said). I only did O level Chemistry, so I'm no expert! However...

On the subject of diesel, carbon footprint or not, it's far more dangerous to humans than petrol - otherwise why would cities be looking to ban it? Hard to achieve in Central London of course, since most of the traffic is buses and taxis.

I read that in Delhi which suffers from major smogs, they are proposing to use retired jet engines mounted on trailers next to coal-fired power stations to blow the gases into the upper atmosphere. Kind of misses the point, I think!

[Turin Machine]

On the subject of diesel, carbon footprint or not, it's far more dangerous to humans than petrol - otherwise why would cities be looking to ban it?

If you or indeed any right minded government was truly interested in the longevity of its population they would ban tobacco, alcohol and fast food. Everything else pails into insignificance. It beggars belief that this whole demonization of diesel originates from a country whose number one priority seems to be to maintain the right to own as many guns as possible and then go on the rampage with them.

"Can we buy nuclear tipped, armour piercing ammo?". "sure why not, its in the Constitution!"

Utter madness and hypocrisy in equal proportion! Makes I laff.

[JeffG]

If you or indeed any right minded government was truly interested in the longevity of its population they would ban tobacco, alcohol and fast food. Everything else pails into insignificance. It beggars belief that this whole demonization of diesel originates from a country whose number one priority seems to be to maintain the right to own as many guns as possible and then go on the rampage with them.

From BBC News:

The leaders of four major global cities say they will stop the use of all diesel-powered cars and trucks by the middle of the next decade.
The mayors of Paris, Mexico City, Madrid and Athens say they are implementing the ban to improve air quality.

Unless that's Paris, Texas etc., I don't see the US involved here. Anyway, when Trump takes office he is going to actively promote more use of coal as a fuel, or so he says. He is hardly likely to "demonise" diesel - after all, it's produced by his oil baron friends.

Removal of diesel is one less problem we have to face. Small steps, maybe, but it all helps. Meanwhile if people stopped buying diesel cars it would help.

[je suis Charlie]

From BBC News:

Unless that's Paris, Texas etc., I don't see the US involved here. Anyway, when Trump takes office he is going to actively promote more use of coal as a fuel, or so he says. He is hardly likely to "demonise" diesel - after all, it's produced by his oil baron friends.

This all started when VW fudged a cheat code into the ecu software to pass emissions control in California, before that no one worried a jot. They may well "demonise" diesel, they always have. Their aim is to sell petrol, lots of it. Efficient diesel is not on the oil barons agenda mate.

[On the edge]

This all started when VW fudged a cheat code into the ecu software to pass emissions control in California, before that no one worried a jot. They may well "demonise" diesel, they always have. Their aim is to sell petrol, lots of it. Efficient diesel is not on the oil barons agenda mate.

They actually need to balance petrol and diesel sales or we'll just end up with a massive store of unusable fuel. If you are looking for an American conspiracy, look at car manufacturers, Ford and GM certainly don't want VW.