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Richard Garvie
post Jun 29 2011, 02:38 PM
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The following paragraph appeared in the agenda for the council meeting on Monday 4th July, but has since been removed:

"We do not believe that travellers should be treated as a separate ethnic group or that policy towards them should be governed by such considerations. Because of the undesirable effects of the travelling way of life on receipt of social services, especially education (2.5) we do not consider that travelling in the sense used in this paper can be sustained in the long run. It is gradually disappearing (2.3/4) and that trend should not be discouraged. We obviously agree on the measures to prevent abuse of the planning system by travellers (2.16/17)"

I know that not everybody agrees with the traveller lifestyle and the questionable behaviour of some of the community, but does this give the council a right to discriminate against travellers as a community and refuse to recognise them as an ethnic group?

Which elected member / officer proposed this measure be included in the agenda? Do they really feel it is acceptable to have a policy that discriminates against travellers? Is this officially a council policy, or is it just the personal opinion of one or a small number of members? I really think we should be told.
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- Richard Garvie   Newbury Town Council and Travellers   Jun 29 2011, 02:38 PM
- - blackdog   Are 'travellers' an ethnic group? Gypsies...   Jun 29 2011, 05:29 PM
|- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (blackdog @ Jun 29 2011, 05:29 PM) ...   Jun 29 2011, 05:55 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jun 29 2011, 06:5...   Jun 29 2011, 06:14 PM
|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jun 29 2011, 06:5...   Jun 29 2011, 08:30 PM
- - Andy Capp   I think the sentence is ambiguous enough for anyon...   Jun 29 2011, 06:20 PM
- - spartacus   I do wish that a small convoy of these happy tinke...   Jun 29 2011, 08:13 PM
- - Richard Garvie   So we should not provide services for them or suit...   Jun 29 2011, 09:50 PM
|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jun 29 2011, 10:5...   Jun 29 2011, 10:13 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (NWNREADER)Should 'we' provide servi...   Jun 29 2011, 10:21 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jun 29 2011, 10:5...   Jun 30 2011, 10:36 AM
- - Richard Garvie   Do the government not insist on traveller manageme...   Jun 29 2011, 10:51 PM
|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jun 29 2011, 11:5...   Jun 30 2011, 09:17 AM
- - JeffG   I think people might be more tolerant of traveller...   Jun 30 2011, 10:50 AM
|- - Brewmaster   QUOTE (JeffG @ Jun 30 2011, 11:50 AM) I t...   Jun 30 2011, 10:54 AM
|- - massifheed   QUOTE (Brewmaster @ Jun 30 2011, 11:54 AM...   Jun 30 2011, 11:23 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (massifheed @ Jun 30 2011, 12:23 PM...   Jun 30 2011, 11:25 AM
- - Strafin   I think we have to consider that sites for trabvel...   Jun 30 2011, 04:43 PM
|- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   The Last 'Respectable' form of Racism Bri...   Jul 4 2011, 07:24 AM
- - JeffG   I think most people would agree with your sentimen...   Jul 4 2011, 10:01 AM
- - Phil_D11102   I don't mind travellers having a location wher...   Jul 4 2011, 10:03 AM
- - Roost   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 4 20...   Jul 4 2011, 11:42 AM
|- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (Roost @ Jul 4 2011, 12:42 PM) All ...   Jul 4 2011, 10:38 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 4 20...   Jul 5 2011, 06:52 AM
|- - Bloggo   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 4 20...   Jul 5 2011, 07:25 AM
||- - dannyboy   QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 5 2011, 08:25 AM) I a...   Jul 5 2011, 07:51 AM
||- - Biker1   QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 5 2011, 08:25 AM) I a...   Jul 5 2011, 08:21 AM
||- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 5 2011, 08:25 AM) I a...   Jul 5 2011, 12:00 PM
||- - Bloggo   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 5 2011, 12:25 PM
||- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 5 2011, 01:25 PM) Tha...   Jul 5 2011, 12:44 PM
||- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 5 2011, 01...   Jul 5 2011, 01:40 PM
||- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 5 2011, 01:45 PM
||- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 5 2011, 02...   Jul 5 2011, 01:54 PM
||- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 5 2011, 02:12 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 4 20...   Jul 5 2011, 05:05 PM
|- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 5 2011, 06:05 PM) See...   Jul 5 2011, 05:51 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 5 2011, 06:59 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 5 2011, 07:59 PM) Tha...   Jul 5 2011, 07:28 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 5 2011, 08:28 PM) ...   Jul 5 2011, 07:53 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 5 2011, 08:53 PM) He ...   Jul 5 2011, 08:00 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 5 2011, 09:00 PM) ...   Jul 5 2011, 08:03 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:03 PM) Can...   Jul 5 2011, 08:07 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 5 2011, 09:07 PM) ...   Jul 5 2011, 08:20 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:20 PM) Of ...   Jul 5 2011, 08:26 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:20 PM) Of ...   Jul 5 2011, 08:27 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:27 PM) Or ...   Jul 5 2011, 08:45 PM
|- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (user23 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:45 PM) I...   Jul 6 2011, 06:58 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 6 20...   Jul 6 2011, 08:32 AM
|- - Dodgys smarter brother.   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 6 2011, 09:32 AM) So ...   Jul 6 2011, 09:23 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Jul 6 2011, ...   Jul 6 2011, 09:39 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 6 2011, 10:39 AM) ...   Jul 6 2011, 01:03 PM
|- - Dodgys smarter brother.   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 6 2011, 02:03 PM) Yep...   Jul 6 2011, 01:31 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Jul 6 2011, ...   Jul 7 2011, 08:47 AM
|- - Weavers Walk   rofpmsl @ Andy Capp "don't confuse me wit...   Jul 7 2011, 08:53 AM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 7 2011, 09:34 AM) N...   Jul 7 2011, 09:06 AM
||- - Squelchy   Oh dear. Our time will come Newburytoday is n...   Jul 7 2011, 12:30 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Squelchy @ Jul 7 2011, 01:30 PM) O...   Jul 7 2011, 12:49 PM
|||- - FactFile   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 7 2011, 01:49 PM) ...   Jul 7 2011, 02:21 PM
||- - Biker1   QUOTE (Squelchy @ Jul 7 2011, 01:30 PM) O...   Jul 7 2011, 03:25 PM
|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 7 2011, 09:47 AM) Evi...   Jul 7 2011, 12:34 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Jul 7 2011, 01:34 PM) ...   Jul 7 2011, 03:18 PM
- - Richard Garvie   Guys, I totally agree about not having to foot the...   Jul 4 2011, 05:44 PM
|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jul 4 2011, 06:44...   Jul 4 2011, 05:57 PM
|- - Roost   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jul 4 2011, 06:44...   Jul 4 2011, 06:46 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jul 4 2011, 06:44...   Jul 4 2011, 08:09 PM
- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jun 29 2011, 02:3...   Jul 4 2011, 10:22 PM
|- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jul 4 2011, 11:22...   Jul 4 2011, 10:48 PM
- - Andy Capp   Just like the very rich and sometimes famous, ...   Jul 5 2011, 04:00 AM
- - Phil_D11102   QUOTE Regardess of what you think about the travel...   Jul 5 2011, 06:32 AM
- - Phil_D11102   QUOTE If anyone has some genuinely positive questi...   Jul 5 2011, 12:19 PM
|- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Jul 5 2011, 01:19 PM...   Jul 5 2011, 01:24 PM
|- - Phil_D11102   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 5 2011, 04:43 PM
- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   Famous Gypsies and Travellers There have been man...   Jul 5 2011, 05:49 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 5 2011, 06:12 PM
- - NWNREADER   The caravan dwellers working the road building pro...   Jul 5 2011, 05:53 PM
- - Roost   I kind of agree. There is a massive difference be...   Jul 5 2011, 06:51 PM
- - Strafin   Here here!   Jul 5 2011, 07:06 PM
- - Richard Garvie   At the end of the day, NTC have apologised for BRE...   Jul 6 2011, 07:48 AM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jul 6 2011, 08:48...   Jul 6 2011, 04:26 PM
|- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jul 6 2011, 04:26 PM...   Jul 6 2011, 05:47 PM
- - Andy Capp   I have no evidence of how criminally intended trav...   Jul 6 2011, 01:48 PM
|- - Dodgys smarter brother.   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 6 2011, 02:48 PM) ...   Jul 6 2011, 02:34 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Jul 6 2011, ...   Jul 6 2011, 03:38 PM
|- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 6 2011, 04:38 PM) ...   Jul 6 2011, 03:39 PM
|- - Squelchy   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 6 2011, 04:38 PM) ...   Jul 6 2011, 06:15 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Squelchy @ Jul 6 2011, 07:15 PM) T...   Jul 6 2011, 06:55 PM
|- - Ruwan Uduwerage-Perera   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jul 6 2011, 04:38 PM) ...   Jul 7 2011, 07:45 AM
- - dannyboy   No, the proof of the pudding will be in the counci...   Jul 7 2011, 08:34 AM
- - Strafin   Pathetic Squelchy. I do remember you coming in for...   Jul 7 2011, 03:57 PM
|- - Squelchy   QUOTE (Strafin @ Jul 7 2011, 04:57 PM) Pa...   Jul 7 2011, 04:16 PM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (Squelchy @ Jul 7 2011, 05:16 PM) A...   Jul 7 2011, 07:40 PM
- - massifheed   Regardless of whether people's opinions of tra...   Jul 19 2011, 08:45 AM
- - FactFile   QUOTE (massifheed @ Jul 19 2011, 09:45 AM...   Jul 19 2011, 09:21 AM
- - Bloggo   QUOTE (FactFile @ Jul 19 2011, 10:21 AM) ...   Jul 19 2011, 09:30 AM
- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (FactFile @ Jul 19 2011, 10:21 AM) ...   Jul 19 2011, 10:05 AM
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