Richard Benyon overterns a ban on battery breeding of pheasants Options

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

It says a lot about a person if they enjoy killing for fun .

True.

But people on this forum regularly go to KFC for their food, where do you think the chicken comes from ? Ole Farmer Mc Gregors place ? I think not. A serious case of double standards where animal welfare is concerned.

Ah it's not OK to eat one of Colonel Sandersons cluckers but it is OK to eat Reginald the handpicked organic vegetarian chicken?

[Andy Capp]

But people on this forum regularly go to KFC for their food, where do you think the chicken comes from ? Ole Farmer Mc Gregors place ? I think not. A serious case of double standards where animal welfare is concerned.

What has this got to do with Richard Benyon MP, and his colleagues at Defra, allegedly reversing the decision to outlaw battery farming pheasants destined for target practice? I would like to know what his good reasons were.

Lets just see that allegation again:

Tory MP Richard Benyon and his colleagues at Defra allegedly reversed the decision to outlaw battery farming pheasants destined for target practice.

Does anyone know what those good reasons were. So far we have had cost as one reason. Presumably there are more?

[Biker1]

Does anyone know what those good reasons were. So far we have had cost as one reason. Presumably there are more?

Nope, money, that's it!.
Same reason we keep chickens in battery cages - cheap eggs.

[Andy Capp]

Nope, money, that's it!.
Same reason we keep chickens in battery cages - cheap eggs.

He said reason'S'. It could be argued that battery farming allows more people to afford food, so there is a certain amount of justification about that, but I can't think what is justifiable about battery reared target practice.

[NWNREADER]

Surely easier to ask him the reasons than speculate?

[Andy Capp]

Surely easier to ask him the reasons than speculate?

I don't know about that... speculation is easy!

How does one ask things like this?

[JeffG]

It could be argued that battery farming allows more people to afford food, so there is a certain amount of justification about that,

How can anyone justify battery farming, whatever it's for?

[Andy Capp]

How can anyone justify battery farming, whatever it's for?

While I didn't justify battery farming, it is a reasonable argument when the results mean people could eat who otherwise would not be able to. That isn't to endorse it as not cruel.

Anyway, let's get back to the point: allegedly the coalition government have reversed the decision to ban battery farming of birds being reared for target practice.

[Strafin]

I think you'll find that KFC is eaten and therefore a food.

[Andy Capp]

I think you'll find that KFC is eaten and therefore a food.

And your specialised subject is the bleedin' obvious?

Anyway, let's get back to the point: allegedly the coalition government have reversed the decision to ban battery farming of birds being reared for target practice.

[NWNREADER]

I think you'll find that KFC is eaten and therefore a food.

Not everything that is eaten is food. Some people eat mud, coal, metal.........

[Turin Machine]

And some people even eat KFC ! God knows why. Anyhoo back to the thread. They are being bred for "Hunting" very different to "target practice"

[Andy Capp]

And some people even eat KFC ! God knows why. Anyhoo back to the thread. They are being bred for "Hunting" very different to "target practice"

I see little difference.

[Turin Machine]

Game birds reared for hunting are released into the wild and hunted from there, birds(such as doves) raised for target practice are shot at at point of release, completely different practice. I won't call it sport.

[Andy Capp]

Game birds reared for hunting are released into the wild and hunted from there, birds(such as doves) raised for target practice are shot at at point of release, completely different practice. I won't call it sport.

You see one being shot at the point of release and the other being released and then 'beat' into gun fire as completely different? I don't. Anyway what do you think are the very good reasons Tory MP Richard Benyon was on about when explaining his department Defra's decision to reverse the ban on battery rearing these birds?

[Turin Machine]

Ok, I know that for someone not up on the countryside it can be a little difficult to understand but there is a difference, believe me. Also not all pheaseants are beaten into the guns, a lot of shoots (particularly smallish consortium and privat shoots) the birds are released into the wild, allowed to semi naturalise and then "walked up" chalk and cheese spring to mind.

As for battery rearing of any creature, should be banned, totally ! We always reared ours in pens in the woods. More work and more cost but beter birds at the end of the day.

Richards reasons ? Dunno, why don't you take the time to enquire ? seems best as you are so incensed by the issue.

[Andy Capp]

Ok, I know that for someone not up on the countryside it can be a little difficult to understand but there is a difference, believe me. Also not all pheaseants are beaten into the guns, a lot of shoots (particularly smallish consortium and privat shoots) the birds are released into the wild, allowed to semi naturalise and then "walked up" chalk and cheese spring to mind.

How do you know my back ground? My parents used to hunt and patronise landed gentry. My brother used to go beating.

Richards reasons ? Dunno, why don't you take the time to enquire ? seems best as you are so incensed by the issue.

I'm incensed by your unhelpful distracting comments. How do you know I haven't asked? 'Benny' your mate is he? Anyhow, this might just be my childish idea of embarrassing well healed Tory toffs?

[Turin Machine]

A, therefor you should be aware of the difference, and

B, If you had asked, why are you asking again on the forum ?

C, carefull, your roots are showing

[Andy Capp]

A, therefor you should be aware of the difference, and

Knowing the difference, doesn't mean I 'see' a difference: breed birds unkindly, release them and then shoot them.

B, If you had asked, why are you asking again on the forum ?

Maybe to embarrass?

C, carefull, your roots are showing

Those that used to vote Tory? Yes.


Tory MP Richard Benyon and his colleagues at Defra allegedly reversed the decision to outlaw battery farming pheasants destined for target practice.

[Turin Machine]

So ask him why, O sorry you already did, according to you anyway. I do love people who shout on forums ! And who exactly do you seek to embarrass. Basically its an issue which you seem to have very little in depth knowledge of so you merely continue to keep making irrelevant posts in order to provoke a response.

Your parents used to "patronise landed gentry" now you maintain the family tradition by patronising us.