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Richard Benyon overterns a ban on battery breeding of pheasants |
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Sep 19 2011, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 19 2011, 06:40 PM) I would be interested in what the 'very good reasons' for allowing battery breading of creatures solely for field sport is. Money!! A large number of people will unfortunately pay large sums of money for the "pleasure" of blasting innocent animals out of the sky.
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Sep 19 2011, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 19 2011, 08:02 PM) If you didn't rear them you wouldn't see them in the fields, they are a game bird, introduced into this countryside for sport. By rights they should all be removed as they are a foreign species. These aren't the ones in the fields are they? These are the ones in battery cages? Or are they released in the fields when it is time to blast them? I'm sure there will be a "country sports" enthusiast on here who will enlighten / justify the process.
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Sep 19 2011, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 19 2011, 08:02 PM) If you didn't rear them you wouldn't see them in the fields, they are a game bird, introduced into this countryside for sport. By rights they should all be removed as they are a foreign species. I'd like to know what the good reasons are to rear pheasants in battery conditions.
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Sep 19 2011, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 19 2011, 08:23 PM) I'd like to know the good reasons are to rear pheasants in battery conditions. Money, Andy. It is cheaper and more productive to rear in battery conditions. Good reasons? There are none that I can see, but others who gain the aforesaid pleasure will surely disagree.
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Sep 19 2011, 10:19 PM
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Sorry, now I'm confused. "but if i had to eat what I kill, I'd have to be a veggie. Cows, chickens, pigs, and pheasants, have great personalities." So this sounds, (and correct me if I'm wrong) like its all right so long as someone else kills it for you ?
let me pose a question, all these fluffy little pheasants we all love to see in the countryside, how do you all think they get there ?? just asking out of interests sake.
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Sep 19 2011, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 19 2011, 11:19 PM) Sorry, now I'm confused. "but if i had to eat what I kill, I'd have to be a veggie. Cows, chickens, pigs, and pheasants, have great personalities." So this sounds, (and correct me if I'm wrong) like its all right so long as someone else kills it for you ? No. What I am saying, is that I couldn't kill anything. I am not saying it is all right. QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 19 2011, 11:19 PM) let me pose a question, all these fluffy little pheasants we all love to see in the countryside, how do you all think they get there ?? just asking out of interests sake. They've been naturalised. Furthermore, I fail to see how that justifies battery rearing birds to hunt for leisure.
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Sep 20 2011, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 19 2011, 10:43 PM) I realise this is a potentially hot discussion point, but if i had to eat what I kill, I'd have to be a veggie. Cows, chickens, pigs, and pheasants, have great personalities. Obviously have never had the pleasure of meeting Richard Beyon. On a serious point though, what is the issue with killing things to eat? I mean, after all, unwrap all of our modern day niceities and we are carnivores who need to eat meat as part of a diet suitable of growing up big and strong... Animals should be kept humanely but ultimately I think there's nothing wrong with killing creatures to eat. After all, happens in the wild and if it didn't matter, why would animals spend billions of years evolving into killing machines?
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Sep 20 2011, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:34 PM) Obviously have never had the pleasure of meeting Richard Benyon. Why "obviously"? He is not a particularly remote figure. I happened to see him walking along Cheap Street this morning. He also knocked on my door during the run-up to the last election.
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Sep 20 2011, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:34 PM) Obviously have never had the pleasure of meeting Richard Beyon.
On a serious point though, what is the issue with killing things to eat? I mean, after all, unwrap all of our modern day niceities and we are carnivores who need to eat meat as part of a diet suitable of growing up big and strong...
Animals should be kept humanely but ultimately I think there's nothing wrong with killing creatures to eat. After all, happens in the wild and if it didn't matter, why would animals spend billions of years evolving into killing machines? It seems you probably haven't read the story. This isn't just about killing things to eat.
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Sep 20 2011, 03:02 PM
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I'm aware. Just that the posts in the topic were slightly related to that, hence my comment. FTR I think it's not fair to rear animals just to kill them. Aside from Foxes, no-one cares about them.
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Sep 20 2011, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 20 2011, 02:29 PM) It seems you probably haven't read the story. This isn't just about killing things to eat. No, it's about cruelly raising animals so that people can gain pleasure from killing things to eat!
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Sep 20 2011, 03:06 PM
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Benyon hasn't the spine to disagree on this overturning of previous policy; I'm sure the set he mixes with, allied to fact he's a landowner will have had no influence Presumably only has compassion for his dogs and not nature's other creatures, that inhabit this planet with us.
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Sep 20 2011, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:03 PM) No, it's about cruelly raising animals so that people can gain pleasure from killing things to eat! It's OK to kill something to eat it, and if you have fun while killing things then hey, that's fine by me. If you kill something and don't eat it and go "HAR HAR", then not so nice.
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