A34 broken again, (holds breath for scorn of the boy/girl racers) Options

[Adrian Hollister]

Chaos today. Drove to Oxford and back in the rain yesterday. Too many people driving too fast and too close together in very wet conditions, including many HGVs, particularly in the outside lane. There will inevitably be more fatalities soon, could be a huge crash if people keep driving like morons in these conditions. Very glad I don't have to drive on it every day.

Note to BMW, Merc and Audi drivers: just because you're driving overpowered German company cars doesn't mean you have to drive like complete idiots. When you do crash, please try to run into each other.

There were a couple more blockages again today. Pure lazy madness that no one want to do anything about it.

edit: just noticed newbury today's story 'A34 clogged following multiple incidents'

[Timbo]

Note to BMW, Merc and Audi drivers: just because you're driving overpowered German company cars doesn't mean you have to drive like complete idiots. When you do crash, please try to run into each other.

Note to Hyundai, Skoda, and Toyota drivers: just because you're driving little shopping cars doesn't mean you have to drive like complete idiots.

Always a little old lady, holding onto the steering wheel for dear life, peering through the gap between the steering wheel and the dashboad while making sure her vari-focals stay in focus.

[Adrian Hollister]

Note to Hyundai, Skoda, and Toyota drivers: just because you're driving little shopping cars doesn't mean you have to drive like complete idiots.

Always a little old lady, holding onto the steering wheel for dear life, peering through the gap between the steering wheel and the dashboad while making sure her vari-focals stay in focus.

Isn't that the reason you need to drive with due care and attention - not everyone drives to your 'standards' and you must be tolerant of other peoples 'standards'.

[Biker1]

I wonder how re-surfacing the road is going to reduce the number of accidents?
I refer to this story.

[dannyboy]

I wonder how re-surfacing the road is going to reduce the number of accidents?
I refer to this story.

shorter stopping distances, less skidding.

[gel]

shorter stopping distances, less skidding.

When I worked at Shell material was known as SHELLGRIP. Expensive, so use restricted
to junction approaches where stopping distances critical. However, Shell sold off their
COLAS road surfacing businesses to some French outfit.

However, I don't see real benefits using on an open stretch as it were.
As others say, real issue is traffic density is far above what was originally envisaged.

Being so overcapacity any disruption to flow quickly clogs up local road network.

[JeffG]

I think the answer to Biker1's question is in the sixth paragraph of that story.

[Biker1]

I think the answer to Biker1's question is in the sixth paragraph of that story.

My point exactly!
All it says is that it will improve safety, it doesn't say how.
I doubt whether the new surface is any more skid resistant than the old one unless they use a specialist dressing which, as gel says, is very expensive.
Oh well, we shall see won't we?

[JeffG]

Well, I am not a civil engineer, but I would assume that a freshly surfaced road is going to be safer to drive on than one that is "worn out".

[NWNREADER]

Strange, but the latest mastic coating of stone used for wearing course has a tendency to extend dry stopping distances - the mastic takes a while to wear off the stone leaving a slipperier surface. But it is cheaper than old school asphalt.....