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post Dec 9 2010, 08:23 PM
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Yes exactly, a load of gobbledygook put together by a load of people who have to secure their jobs. Jobsworths all.
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Dec 9 2010, 08:23 PM) *
Yes exactly, a load of gobbledygook put together by a load of people who have to secure their jobs. Jobsworths all.



Really. Plain English to me.

Of course, if you happy that people die while at work because management put profit in front of their employees safety, I look forward to you having an accident at work, hopefully serious. That'll show them, eh...
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Dec 9 2010, 08:23 PM) *
Yes exactly, a load of gobbledygook put together by a load of people who have to secure their jobs. Jobsworths all.


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post Dec 9 2010, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Dec 9 2010, 08:31 PM) *
Really. Plain English to me.

Of course, if you happy that people die while at work because management put profit in front of their employees safety, I look forward to you having an accident at work, hopefully serious. That'll show them, eh...


This is about homeworkers, not scaffolders or roofers.
We all should think about our own safety in the home and I agree there are homes that are not safe, when for instance parents leave cooking pot handles in reach of children. But, this is not what it's about. It's about a skilled worker sitting at a computer or stuffing envelopes or operating, in the outer Hebrides, a hand loom. We do need to get this working at home thing in perspective.....or are you H&S employees as you seem to want to perpetuate the whole nonsense.
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:44 PM
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What nonsense???? Read the material!
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:45 PM
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That has nothing to do with H&S at home, it is about child labour or oppression IN THE WORKPLACE.
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Dec 9 2010, 08:44 PM) *
What nonsense???? Read the material!

That's myopia for you! wink.gif ...industrial disease? tongue.gif

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That has nothing to do with H&S at home, it is about child labour or oppression IN THE WORKPLACE.

I know, it was a joke, but employers (trainer manufacturers for instance) are and should be made responsible for how their products are manufactured. Why should working at home absolve an employer from his responsibilities?

BTW - There is more to working from home than just computing.
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post Dec 9 2010, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Dec 9 2010, 08:57 PM) *
BTW - There is more to working from home than just computing.


Just have a quick re-read of my last post, I was ahead of you.

I said.... "skilled worker sitting at a computer or stuffing envelopes or operating, in the outer Hebrides, a hand loom. "
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post Dec 9 2010, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Dec 9 2010, 09:05 PM) *
Just have a quick re-read of my last post, I was ahead of you.

I said.... "skilled worker sitting at a computer or stuffing envelopes or operating, in the outer Hebrides, a hand loom. "

Like I said, if an employer is responsible for your health while you do work at a place of work, why should that change because you are working at home? Those boxes of envelopes are just as heavy at home as at your place of work? Those dangerous chemicals are just as dangerous at home as they are at work. And electrical equipment doesn't become safer when it passes the threshold of the work place.
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post Dec 10 2010, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Dec 9 2010, 08:21 PM) *
what does exist is targeted at high risk environments such as mining, railways and the nuclear industry.

Out of context, I know, but I'm musing over what's involved in working at home in the nuclear industry... smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Dec 10 2010, 10:19 AM) *
Out of context, I know, but I'm musing over what's involved in working at home in the nuclear industry... smile.gif


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post Dec 10 2010, 11:04 AM
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Watch The Simpsons episode King-Size Homer... biggrin.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Dec 9 2010, 08:41 PM) *
This is about homeworkers, not scaffolders or roofers.
We all should think about our own safety in the home and I agree there are homes that are not safe, when for instance parents leave cooking pot handles in reach of children. But, this is not what it's about. It's about a skilled worker sitting at a computer or stuffing envelopes or operating, in the outer Hebrides, a hand loom. We do need to get this working at home thing in perspective.....or are you H&S employees as you seem to want to perpetuate the whole nonsense.

I do agree with you that it could be construed as being over the top but it is the law and as such employers have a duty of care to comply. I wonder how many do and I think that because of the financial implications to the tax payer should a council worker have an accident or develop an injury due to an inappropriate work station then it is important that the assessment is made and kept current as the tax payer will be picking up the compensation bill.


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post Dec 10 2010, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Dec 10 2010, 11:39 AM) *
I do agree with you that it could be construed as being over the top but it is the law and as such employers have a duty of care to comply. I wonder how many do and I think that because of the financial implications to the tax payer should a council worker have an accident or develop an injury due to an inappropriate work station then it is important that the assessment is made and kept current as the tax payer will be picking up the compensation bill.


Yep, agree. As I stated before I think that a lot of it is down to money.
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post Dec 10 2010, 02:45 PM
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This is THE funniest thing I have read for ages laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Where is it from?


Posted on Newburynet about 5 years ago, then re-posted (with permission) on a Sub-Mariners forum. After that it went viral.
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post Dec 10 2010, 09:10 PM
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I believe it was written by Richard Littlejohn - a daily mail columnist.
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post Dec 10 2010, 10:01 PM
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And today, also.....
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