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post Jul 13 2010, 08:08 AM
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A Primary School Teacher earning 200k+ a year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10609273.stm

20% of all Britains to be made up of ethnic minorities and UK population to soar to 78Million

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10607480.stm

House Prices to fall

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10603905.stm

Thank God they have gone. May they never return.

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post Jul 13 2010, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 13 2010, 09:08 AM) *
A Primary School Teacher earning 200k+ a year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10609273.stm

20% of all Britains to be made up of ethnic minorities and UK population to soar to 78Million

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10607480.stm

House Prices to fall

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10603905.stm

Thank God they have gone. May they never return.

I agree with your sentiments TDH but lets see if this new combined outfit can do any better.

Can they reverse the trends you highlight in your post?

As for population increase - the real polluter on this planet - I don't know the answer.
What I do know is that it is unsustainable and will be our downfall if nothing IS done. sad.gif

Judging by the number of young women walking around the town ON THEIR OWN pushing a probably subsidised child in a pushchair perhaps the two brick method is worth considering! tongue.gif
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post Jul 13 2010, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 13 2010, 09:08 AM) *
A Primary School Teacher earning 200k+ a year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10609273.stm

20% of all Britains to be made up of ethnic minorities and UK population to soar to 78Million

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10607480.stm

House Prices to fall

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10603905.stm

Thank God they have gone. May they never return.

All a load of headline grabbing cobblers. And Labours return might not be so far away either, now the current mob are showing signs of being just as inept.
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post Jul 13 2010, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jul 13 2010, 10:11 AM) *
All a load of headline grabbing cobblers. And Labours return might not be so far away either, now the current mob are showing signs of being just as inept.


So that Primary school teacher did not earn 200k a year, population is not going to increase and house prices are going to rocket.

You seem to have a bit of a 'monk on' today Iommi. Justify what you mean when you say its all cobblers.
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post Jul 13 2010, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 13 2010, 10:33 AM) *
So that Primary school teacher did not earn 200k a year, population is not going to increase and house prices are going to rocket.

You seem to have a bit of a 'monk on' today Iommi. Justify what you mean when you say its all cobblers.


The Headteacher's one is a bit, as it was made up of 2 years worth of pay and overtime, just paid in a single year.


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post Jul 13 2010, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 13 2010, 10:48 AM) *
The Headteacher's one is a bit, as it was made up of 2 years worth of pay and overtime, just paid in a single year.


It was not 2 years pay. It was 'some' backdated pay and a separate payment for a project he worked on. Anyway his p60 was for over £200K.

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post Jul 13 2010, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 13 2010, 10:53 AM) *
It was not 2 years pay. It was 'some' backdated pay and a separate payment for a project he worked on. Anyway his p60 was for over £200K.


Back to the point, I still think that the headline is sensationalist as it's not reflecting the real story.


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post Jul 13 2010, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 13 2010, 11:33 AM) *
Back to the point, I still think that the headline is sensationalist as it's not reflecting the real story.


It may be sensationalist (like assylum seekers living in £2 Million pound houses) but thats what sells Newspapers.

I for one think he is overpaid. Am I wrong in thinking that or do you think that his pay award is reasonable?
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post Jul 13 2010, 10:36 AM
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I don't see the problem. The head teacher did a brilliant job by all accounts turning round a failing school. It's the usual union thing about "no-one should be paid more than anyone else".
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post Jul 13 2010, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jul 13 2010, 11:36 AM) *
I don't see the problem. The head teacher did a brilliant job by all accounts turning round a failing school. It's the usual union thing about "no-one should be paid more than anyone else".



Yes, but over £1/4M on public sector pay - come on!
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post Jul 13 2010, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 13 2010, 10:33 AM) *
So that Primary school teacher did not earn 200k a year, population is not going to increase and house prices are going to rocket.

I don't think speculation is correct use of 'legacy'.

As for the teacher, do we know enough about what he did to make a rational judgement?

House prices, they are too high in my view and it is their relative growth that contributed to the mess we are apparently in.

Finally, would it have been any different under anyone else?
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post Jul 13 2010, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jul 13 2010, 12:23 PM) *
I don't think speculation is correct use of 'legacy'.

As for the teacher, do web know enough about what he did to make a rational judgement?

House prices, they are too high in my view and it is their relative growth that contributed to the mess we are apparently in.

Finally, would it have been any different under anyone else?



Well done - reasonable debate - see you CAN do it! tongue.gif
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post Jul 13 2010, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 13 2010, 12:07 PM) *
Yes, but over £1/4M on public sector pay - come on!

Actually, £200K is less than £1/4M.

So what you are saying is that the public sector should only employ inferior people who would do a worse job because they have to be paid a lot less than the equivalent job in the private sector?

As far as I can make out, he was paid a basic salary of £82K, the rest being additional pay for work done on other projects over the previous three years.
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post Jul 13 2010, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 13 2010, 11:35 AM) *
I for one think he is overpaid. Am I wrong in thinking that or do you think that his pay award is reasonable?


Seems quite modest a salary compared to people like these who only work a three day week:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/otherspor...gue-salary.html

I believe I heard on the radio last week that the average salary in London is now over £50k p.a. anyway - makes the kind of money paid around here look a bit measly, certainly
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post Jul 13 2010, 04:38 PM
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At least a head teacher has contributed to society, which is more than can be said for those overpaid footballers the media are so in love with.
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post Jul 13 2010, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 13 2010, 09:08 AM) *
A Primary School Teacher earning 200k+ a year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10609273.stm

20% of all Britains to be made up of ethnic minorities and UK population to soar to 78Million

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10607480.stm

House Prices to fall

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10603905.stm

Thank God they have gone. May they never return.


Chris Huhne hiring a speechwriter at £56,597 while cutting public services.

Michael Gove now on his 5th draft of school cuts and got it wrong yet again.

Nick Clegg on immigration amnesty.

Drunk Tory MP missed VAT vote.

New coalition have been great so far haven't they?
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post Jul 13 2010, 06:30 PM
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£100k for a teacher? A Teacher for crying out loud! Not a fireman, not a soldier or a brain surgeon a flipping PRIMARY school teacher. Disgraceful and unjustifiable from any angle.
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post Jul 13 2010, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jul 13 2010, 07:30 PM) *
£100k for a teacher? A Teacher for crying out loud! Not a fireman, not a soldier or a brain surgeon a flipping PRIMARY school teacher. Disgraceful and unjustifiable from any angle.

I would argue a good teacher is easily worth it. Just think of the damage a bad teacher can do.
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post Jul 13 2010, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Jul 13 2010, 06:24 PM) *
New coalition have been great so far haven't they?


Bring on UKIP, I say - only just don't bother organising any flying displays around here, ok? laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2010, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jul 13 2010, 10:11 AM) *
All a load of headline grabbing cobblers. And Labours return might not be so far away either, now the current mob are showing signs of being just as inept.


Are they, in what way? Don't forget they inherited labour's shambles. When labour was in power they did a lot of damage, including creating a paranoia society. I was glad they are now gone, and I am not alone.
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