Cologne , Stuttgart , Hamburg, Sweden...? Options

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A tragedy unfolds.
Could it happen here?

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Does Mr Kirby have a view?

[Simon Kirby]

Does Mr Kirby have a view?

Yes, I'd prefer that you called me Simon.

As for the events in Cologne, it's a difficult situation. Those responsible for the lawlessness would appear to have been of North African or Arab ethnicity, and there is reportedly some evidence that refugees from war-torn Syria and other recent arrivals from the region were involved. That's obviously got some people into a bit of a tizzy as for them it reinforces their world view that foreigners are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed into their country, and the heat they bring to the discussion is unhelpful because it makes it very difficult to discuss the racial dimension which is certainly there are needs understanding.

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Yes, I'd prefer that you called me Simon.

As for the events in Cologne, it's a difficult situation. Those responsible for the lawlessness would appear to have been of North African or Arab ethnicity, and there is reportedly some evidence that refugees from war-torn Syria and other recent arrivals from the region were involved. That's obviously got some people into a bit of a tizzy as for them it reinforces their world view that foreigners are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed into their country, and the heat they bring to the discussion is unhelpful because it makes it very difficult to discuss the racial dimension which is certainly there are needs understanding.

Simon, (nudge accepted, apologies)


Cologne, I think you missed a few. Stuttgart, Hamburg, Helsinki, Kalmar, Vienna and almost certainly a few other places too. This is a Europe wide issue and in my view the blinkered liberals have a lot to answer for.
I do like those BBC words, 'would appear', 'some evidence', 'a bit of a tizzy','unhelpful', 'alleged' The liberal leftie view is amazing. Do you think those poor women who were humiliated and injured by scum would agree with you? I think not. I wonder what your response would be if it were to be YOUR daughter, wife or sister subjected to such barbarism? Merkel's chickens are coming home to roost and it will only get worse. Her policy of open doors to so many in such a short time will only have negative impact. She has even been reported today as saying deportations should be made easier for those convicted of criminal activity. Why the **** didn't they have just a little forethought and consider the consequences of such a huge influx? As for the authorities telling their nationals that they have to change THEIR way of life to avoid such activity is quite simply astounding. The mayor of Cologne should resign and hold her head in shame. It won't be long before those ******** get German passports and then a free entry to our own shores. The sooner we get out of this failed European social experiment, the better.

[Simon Kirby]

Cologne, I think you missed a few. Stuttgart, Hamburg, Helsinki, Kalmar, Vienna and almost certainly a few other places too. This is a Europe wide issue and in my view the blinkered liberals have a lot to answer for.
I do like those BBC words, 'would appear', 'some evidence', 'a bit of a tizzy','unhelpful', 'alleged' The liberal leftie view is amazing. Do you think those poor women who were humiliated and injured by scum would agree with you? I think not. I wonder what your response would be if it were to be YOUR daughter, wife or sister subjected to such barbarism? Merkel's chickens are coming home to roost and it will only get worse. Her policy of open doors to so many in such a short time will only have negative impact. She has even been reported today as saying deportations should be made easier for those convicted of criminal activity. Why the **** didn't they have just a little forethought and consider the consequences of such a huge influx? As for the authorities telling their nationals that they have to change THEIR way of life to avoid such activity is quite simply astounding. The mayor of Cologne should resign and hold her head in shame. It won't be long before those ******** get German passports and then a free entry to our own shores. The sooner we get out of this failed European social experiment, the better.

Liberal leftie? Sure, I'm comfortable with that. I think though that it is important to understand what happened first.

[je suis Charlie]

Liberal leftie? Sure, I'm comfortable with that. I think though that it is important to understand what happened first.

What happened was groups of men, of north African and or Arab origins sexually assaulted and in one case gang raped women. The police and media, for fear of being called 'racist' covered up the fact that many of them were, in fact, asylum seekers. The chief of police has now been sacked for his part in this cover up and yet more fuel has been thrown on the anti immigrant fire. Merkel is being pressured for change, and groups from the far right are recruiting like crazy. Nobody is going to come out the winner and yet the liberal elements are still attempting to keep their heads firmly buried in the sand.